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Old 18-03-2007, 10:55 AM   #1
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Default Re: Ne znam, a voleo bih da znam! (kontra-faza)

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ma ja sam u fazonu da snimam close-miking, da svaki deo recimo bubnja snimam sto je moguce odvojenije i udaljenije od drugog dela(gleda se da se uzimaju sto usmereniji majkovi i da se postavljaju sto blize izvorima, i da se smanji efekat njihovog medjusobnog preslusavanja) i ako to sve zajedno sa eq-om i ostalom dinamicko-filterskom obradom zvuci lepo, sto bi neko iznad rekao veoma lepo, onda na faze vise ni ne mislim vec samo rokam-snimam bitno je samo da neke tehnike snimanja jednog elementa bubnja npr dobosa pomenutog, kada se snima gornja koza i snar istog, to moze da zahteva obrtanje faze jednog od mikrofona i o tome se mora voditi racuna, jer se u ovom slucaju mogu mnoge frekvencije potrti a neke sabrati i sto bi boggy rekao imamo comb filtar koji je jako nepozeljan... mada mozda se nekome svidi tako snimljen dobos gde faze nisu obrtane... a mozda i ne... poenta cele price je u tome da slusas i ako nesto ne valja tj. zvuci neprirodno ili ruzno (ili mozda lepo, zavisi kako na to gleda ) onda znaci da su se faze malo poigrale sa snimkom
znam da coveku nije i dalje jasno sta je sta, ali tako je to kada se bavi pojavama koje su jako kompleksne i komplikovane za ljudski mozak

Voleo bih da cujem snimak bubnja snimnjenog samo close mikrofonima
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Old 22-10-2010, 07:32 PM   #2
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Default Re: Ne znam, a voleo bih da znam! (kontra-faza)

Vrlo zanimljivo svedočenje Tonija Viskontija o snimanju vokala za Bouvijev album Young Americans, pokazuje kako obrtanje faza mo?e da bude veoma korisno:

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It was agreed we had to record live, no overdubs! But David also wanted to record his vocals live in the same room! This presented a big problem because the instruments were much louder than his voice, so I had to rig up a special microphone technique which canceled the band but recorded his voice. This required two identical microphones placed electronically out of phase. In other words, the diaphragm of one mike is pushing when the other is pulling. The band's sound is picked up by the two mikes, but is out of phase and consequently cancelled! David was told to sing only into the top mike so that his voice was not canceled! For the non-technically-minded this probably doesn't make any sense, but it saved the day, and what you hear on the recordings is about 85% "live" David Bowie.
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