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Old 23-09-2008, 09:40 AM   #31
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A sta, Sm pro mpatch 2 je dobar u poredjenju sa SPL i MS?
Volume 2 je stvarno super stvar jer radi svoj poso genialno.
Jedina mana za mene je bila da nemgu prikljuciti drugo slusanje.
Tako da se odlucio privremeno na M-Patch. Za tu cjenu nemozes bas neke velike mane naci.
Posto je pasivan sistem minimalo utjece na signal.

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Old 23-09-2008, 07:02 PM   #32
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Tako da se odlucio privremeno na M-Patch. Za tu cjenu nemozes bas neke velike mane naci.
Posto je pasivan sistem minimalo utjece na signal.
da ispravim, posto je pasivan, uopste ne utice na zvuk.
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Old 23-09-2008, 07:17 PM   #33
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da ispravim, posto je pasivan, uopste ne utice na zvuk.
Zasto tako mislis?
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Old 23-09-2008, 07:31 PM   #34
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ako ja lazem, cike iz sos-a ne lazu (valjda)

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SM Pro's M-Patch 2 is a simple, passive design and contains no active electronics in the signal path. This means it can't add noise or distortion, or otherwise colour your audio signals.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec0...mprompatch.htm


aktivna elektronika unutar sprave je samo za headphone preamp, inace joj ne treba struja da bi radila

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Old 23-09-2008, 07:36 PM   #35
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ako ja lazem, cike iz sos-a ne lazu (valjda)



http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec0...mprompatch.htm


aktivna elektronika unutar sprave je samo za headphone preamp, inace joj ne treba struja

Pa to ti je kao da si citirao Trece Oko ili Kurir, samo se bave reklamiranjem opreme, a ne umrlicama i cudotvornim amajlijama za lijecenje bolova u prostati i slijepom crijevu.
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Old 23-09-2008, 07:40 PM   #36
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postoje 2 vrste kontrolera, pasivni i aktivni.
pasivni ne boje zvuk, aktivni boje.

reci mi da nisam u pravu.
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Nisi.









Oces opet?





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ok, ako oni lazu, onda lazem i ja.

a sad, dokazi
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Old 23-09-2008, 07:45 PM   #39
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postoje 2 vrste kontrolera, pasivni i aktivni.
pasivni ne boje zvuk, aktivni boje.

reci mi da nisam u pravu.
Nisi.

ne postoje kontroleri koji ne boje zvuk, postoje kontroleri koji boje zvuk vise ili manje, pasivni ili aktivni bili.

pot... prvi problem sa jeftinim potom je razlika u vrednosti otpornosti kada su cetiri pota u istoj poziciji (kao u slucaju tog pasivnog)... tada.... postoji razlika u nivou izmedju levog i desnog... varira i preko +/-1dB za jeftine potove, ali... pri tom postoji i debalans u istom obimu balansiranog signala,... posto +/- grana svakog balansiranog signala se ne pojacava istim gainom... a opste poznato je da je sva "magija" u balansiranom signalu upravo u zanemarljivim razlikama izmedju + i - grane (na tom mestu se +/- 0.1% razlike izmedju + i - tek mogu zanemariti)


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p.s. najgore od svega je sto taj debalans i razlika izmedju levog i desnog ide po potpuno neuhvatljivom zakonu... i nikako se ne moze kompenzovati...
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Old 23-09-2008, 07:46 PM   #40
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Pa, signal prolazi kroz pot, to je dovoljno. I to kroz prilicno jeftin pot. Oces da ponesemo na Audio Precision, pa da ti dokazem da mijenja?
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