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Old 23-09-2008, 08:31 PM   #1
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ako ja lazem, cike iz sos-a ne lazu (valjda)

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aktivna elektronika unutar sprave je samo za headphone preamp, inace joj ne treba struja da bi radila

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Old 23-09-2008, 08:36 PM   #2
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ako ja lazem, cike iz sos-a ne lazu (valjda)



http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec0...mprompatch.htm


aktivna elektronika unutar sprave je samo za headphone preamp, inace joj ne treba struja

Pa to ti je kao da si citirao Trece Oko ili Kurir, samo se bave reklamiranjem opreme, a ne umrlicama i cudotvornim amajlijama za lijecenje bolova u prostati i slijepom crijevu.
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Old 23-09-2008, 08:40 PM   #3
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postoje 2 vrste kontrolera, pasivni i aktivni.
pasivni ne boje zvuk, aktivni boje.

reci mi da nisam u pravu.
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Nisi.









Oces opet?





Nisi.
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ok, ako oni lazu, onda lazem i ja.

a sad, dokazi
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Old 23-09-2008, 08:46 PM   #6
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Pa, signal prolazi kroz pot, to je dovoljno. I to kroz prilicno jeftin pot. Oces da ponesemo na Audio Precision, pa da ti dokazem da mijenja?
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Old 23-09-2008, 08:53 PM   #7
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ok, ako oni lazu, onda lazem i ja.
preteruju, najblaze receno... marketing su preuzeli od proizvodjaca ovakvih i slicnih atenuatora... jedino su "zaboravili" da stave komponente koje barem manje unose debalansa i razlika
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a sad, dokazi
Zasto od njih (proizvodjaca) ne trazis da dokazu svoje tvrdnje (recimo da su u obavezi da to urade.. kad vec tvrde! Uzimaju neke pare za to!)

Najjace sto ima dvuckovic je sluh kome veruje... treba li mu jos nesto vise za njegov osnovni posao?


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Old 23-09-2008, 11:17 PM   #8
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Ja kad pojacam levi signal u odnosu na desni za 1 db , to se jako oseti ..... nikad to nisam osetio ni kod jednog kontrolera , to bi bilo jako neprihvatljivo ....


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Old 23-09-2008, 08:45 PM   #9
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postoje 2 vrste kontrolera, pasivni i aktivni.
pasivni ne boje zvuk, aktivni boje.

reci mi da nisam u pravu.
Nisi.

ne postoje kontroleri koji ne boje zvuk, postoje kontroleri koji boje zvuk vise ili manje, pasivni ili aktivni bili.

pot... prvi problem sa jeftinim potom je razlika u vrednosti otpornosti kada su cetiri pota u istoj poziciji (kao u slucaju tog pasivnog)... tada.... postoji razlika u nivou izmedju levog i desnog... varira i preko +/-1dB za jeftine potove, ali... pri tom postoji i debalans u istom obimu balansiranog signala,... posto +/- grana svakog balansiranog signala se ne pojacava istim gainom... a opste poznato je da je sva "magija" u balansiranom signalu upravo u zanemarljivim razlikama izmedju + i - grane (na tom mestu se +/- 0.1% razlike izmedju + i - tek mogu zanemariti)


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p.s. najgore od svega je sto taj debalans i razlika izmedju levog i desnog ide po potpuno neuhvatljivom zakonu... i nikako se ne moze kompenzovati...
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