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Old 30-01-2012, 03:22 PM   #1
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Mixing and recording.
Big difference !!!
radi se o kompletnom procesu, ne samo snimanje, a Trevor je puno veci autoritet od Michael Brauera..bar meni

i sam si se divio kako npr Skrillex ima perfektan lowend i da nema sanse da je to radjeno kuci...da nije mixao na boomboxu i super namestio subbass?

pretpostavljam da se mastering engineers se isto zaludjuju troseci velike pare na akustiku i monitoring da bi popravljali BAS ono sto tvrdis da nema veze kad je mixanje u pitanju?

nema tog SSL-a koji moze da zameni dobar monitoring

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Old 30-01-2012, 04:08 PM   #2
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radi se o kompletnom procesu, ne samo snimanje, a Trevor je puno veci autoritet od Michael Brauera..bar meni
Trevor Horn nije miksing in?enjer nego songwriter/producer a u tvom primjeru govori o snimanju a ne miksanju jer on sa miksanjem nema puno veze .

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i sam si se divio kako npr Skrillex ima perfektan lowend i da nema sanse da je to radjeno kuci...da nije mixao na boomboxu i super namestio subbass?
Ja sam rekao da Skrillex to sigurno ne miksa sam na laptopu nego da mu to radi pedesetogodi?njak na pravoj opremi

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pretpostavljam da se mastering engineers se isto zaludjuju troseci velike pare na akustiku i monitoring da bi popravljali BAS ono sto tvrdis da nema veze kad je mixanje u pitanju?

nema tog SSL-a koji moze da zameni dobar monitoring
Mastering je ne?to drugo.
Nemojmo mje?ati kru?ke i jabuke
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Old 30-01-2012, 04:18 PM   #3
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BTW, evo iskopao sam jedan super članak za Boggya, kad je već započeo tezu o tome kako su vrhunski in?enjeri od malena sjedili u vrhunskim studijima i slu?ali vrhunsku akustiku i zato dobro miksaju.

Pa evo kako je započeo svoju karijeru miksing in?enjera jedan od najboljih in?enjera svih vremena Steve Lipson:

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"I didn't have a clue what I was doing," Lipson now admits. "I read a few books, talked with different people, bought ?15,000 worth of gear, did a bit of building work ? with no acoustic treatment ? and we opened for business. I obtained a 16-track Unicol tape machine from Command Studios, and the very first session featured a band that had to record a jingle in three hours.
"For some bizarre reason, the studio started doing really well, and within six months a band named Sniff 'n' the Tears came in to record an album, Fickle Heart, and I ended up co-producing it just because I discovered this amazing thing called the mute switch.

Although the Regents Park Recording Company was thriving and Lipson was gaining invaluable on-the-job experience, when Sniff 'n' the Tears asked him to produce their second album in Paris and Duncan Bruce demanded an 80 percent cut of the payment, Lipson walked.
It was 1978 and, now freelance, he took engineering work wherever he could get it. This included producing and engineering Lindisfarne's Sleepless Nights album at Chipping Norton in Oxford, as well as numerous assignments at both Ridge Farm in Surrey and the aforementioned French studio, Superbear."


Dakle, The Steve Lipson je kupio nekakvu opremu , stavio je u neku sobu, pročitao par knjiga i naučio sam miksati.
Samo u ovoj zadnjoj rečenici je spomenuo 3 studija gdje je radio freelance 1978. godine.

Bojim se Boggy da ti teorija o učenju akustike da bi postao miksing in?enjer pada u vodu
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Bojim se Boggy da ti teorija o učenju akustike da bi postao miksing inženjer pada u vodu
Nisam rekao da treba miksing inzenjer da uci akustiku (iako nije lose da je zna, i svuda se uci u skolama), da bi znao miksati. Rekao sam da mora barem slusati, ili miksati prvih godina u akusticki sredjenom prostoru, da bi se mogao snaci u bilo kojem, ali kasnije, posle pet do deset godina rada. Tek tada moze da radi bilo gde i bukvalno na bilo cemu.
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Trevor Horn nije miksing inženjer nego songwriter/producer a u tvom primjeru govori o snimanju a ne miksanju jer on sa miksanjem nema puno veze .
On s mixanjem nema puno veze? Ajd dobro...ispasce da je na kraju Trevor neko levo smetalo koji nema pojma sta prica...zna on o mixanju vise nego svi mi kad se saberemo na forumu...verovatno i o monitoringu, SSLu i akustici...

Popularizacija mixanja, kao zasebne, 'karakterne grane' u izradi audio proizvoda je krenula sa Bob Clearmountain-om...pre to ga je bilo mix as you go

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Ja sam rekao da Skrillex to sigurno ne miksa sam na laptopu nego da mu to radi pedesetogodišnjak na pravoj opremi
Sta je to 'prava oprema'??


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Nemojmo mješati kruške i jabuke
Sta je mastering?? Nema veze s mixanjem? Na kraju, po tebi, jedan kompletan homogen proces izgleda potpuno diskonektovan

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