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Old 04-11-2007, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default OT: Kompresor (pomoc)

Znam da je OT, ali namjerno postavljam pitanje "klavijaturistima" po?to me zanima njihovo mi?ljenje. Tra?im analogni (mono) kompresor za ove monofonike koje imam. Volio bih zadr?ati istu zvučnu karakteristiku (boju) syntha - samo da se malo srede amplitude da mi ne odlazi u clip kada zavrnem rezonancu. Ako mo?e neka preporuka.




Također tra?im jedan (stereo) kompresor za 12 bitni sampler (S-550) koji bi uglavnom tukao bubnjeve. Ako netko mo?e preporučiti ne?to.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:51 PM   #2
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Od starijih DBX 160 XT ili 160A sa Jim Williams modifikacijama, mozes jih dobiti veoma jeftino.....

Od novijih SPL Dynamaxx, super clean sound i radi svoj posao odlicno...

Meni osobno najbolja je kombinacija Distressora i DBX 160SL.....


Pozdrav, Gregor

The 160A is nearly identical to the 160XT. The XT uses a LM353 input opamp and a 5534 output opamp, the A uses 5532 opamps. Both differ from the X by having an opamp based balanced output, the 160X uses a current buffer around a LF351. The XT and A also have this circuit in addition to the cleaner balanced opamp outputs. The A has a cross coupled output with a servo.

Both the XT and A are superior to the X as they each incorporate the non-linear timing capacitor circuit which speeds up attack time and lowers low frequency THD. These circuits can be inproved by replacing the cross coupled 1N4148 diodes with green LED's.

All can be improved by replacing the VCA with a that 2180A. Remove the 51 or 47 ohm resistor from the trim to pin 4 and remove the trim circuit feed 100k resistor as these are pre-trimmed at the factory. On an A it's R110 and R111. On an XT it's R9 and R10. On an X it's R9 and R10.

When I do the mod on them the VCA is replaced with a that 2180A, the opamp is changed to a National LM6172, the trim circuits are removed from the vca, the electrolytic coupling cap is replaced with a Wima 4.7 uf mks-2, bypassed with a MIT .01 PPMFX. Power supply cans are replaced and enlarged and some phase compensation and power supply bypass caps are added. Bandwidth is raise up one octave. Slew rate is increased. Distortion is lowered. Fog is removed. All is well.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #3
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za male pare. i minimalnu kolorizaciju, ako to trazis.. FMR Audio RNC. kvaliteta mu poprilicno prezilazi cijenu, ali naravno nije u klasi sprava koje je Gregor nabrojao.


makar moram priznat rijetko mi je potreban transparentan compresor pri trackingu za sinteve, do 3dB gain reduction-a dosta dobro rjesavam sa URS pluginovima. osim ako ne zelim bas dodatni karakter.. za to planiram jedan MC-77 (urei1176 clone) da zveknem na bass synth, ili na beatbox, da hebe mamu i to je to.

od jeftinijih farben varijanti jedan stariji joe meek ili focusrite compounder mi je super radio za neke sinteve. ono, definitivno "cujes" kompresiju, ali je nekako ugodna, seksi..


ma ima jos kile sprava, sad mi stao mozak. rogina ce ti sigurno jos nesta nabacit. a i ponudit..
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:09 PM   #4
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...za male pare. i minimalnu kolorizaciju, ako to trazis.. FMR Audio RNC. kvaliteta mu poprilicno prezilazi cijenu, ali naravno nije u klasi sprava koje je Gregor nabrojao.
Ako imas srecu 160xt in 160x moze se naci za 100 - 150 eur.
Ja sam nekoliko vremena trazio 160xt onda jednom pronasao i nabavio 160x za 100eur.
160ice su super duper za bass, drums, percussion...
Za mono compressor za ovu cjenu mislim, da nema boljeg

Cheap stereo compressor je alesis 3630 - KAO, da su ga koristili daft punk na Homework sav sidechain compression je bio raden kao sa 3630... neznam mozda ima nesto istine u ovome
Cjena novog je 110 eur. Isprobao sam ga samo jednom, on ti je ok lo-fi/low class compressor nista posebno i nista sta ne bi mogau uraditi u softwareu (definitivno su svi midclass i bolji soft copressori bolji od ovog). Dodaje nekoliko koloracije a 100 eur za novog je dzabeee ako ti bas treba stereo hardware compr. za male pare.
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3630 je apsolutno groblje. kao i behringer. sve drugo kako je to sad odjednom "vintage " compressor, su internet bajke.

btw, volim daft punk, ali taj sidechain na kick, na "Discovery" albumu (bio to 3630 ili najskuplji compressor na planeti, svejedno) je doveo plocu do granica slusljivosti. unistena ploca. steta pjesama. u klubu jos funkcionira kako tako, ali doma me zaboli glava od toga, u roku keks.
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jos jedan glas za dbx 160! a za stereo ... hmmm... alan smart? he.. ma uzmi nekoliko tih dbx i vozi


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Old 04-11-2007, 06:20 PM   #7
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moj glas za APHEX TUBE EXPRESSOR 661

definitivno BEST buy

imao sam 160xt ali ovo je Boooolje

naravno 160xt je super,ali ja sam za APHEX-e

BRZI cisti ilikarakterni kako vam pase i vrlo transparentni i jos imaju Exciter i TUBE...ma milina ..ima ih za 300 $

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moj glas za APHEX TUBE EXPRESSOR 661ZAKON
Slazzem se, imaju par u Studiu Metro u Ljubljani.....malo sam zaboravio na njih.....uvijek sam ih upotrebio za nessto......uvijek su mi zvucali super....
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evo kako izgleda 2/3 mojih kompressora....imam jos par a medju ovima su i expressori
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evo kako izgleda 2/3 mojih kompressora....imam jos par a medju ovima su i expressori
aaaa, transient designer! super sprava za masakriranje loopova.
(gregor z gdje je tvoj t.d.? prodao?)


da li ima aphex 661 "stereo link"?
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