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Old 12-06-2017, 11:02 AM   #11
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Da li racunam tangencialne ili posredne ?

I sta dobijam s tim kad to sracunam ?
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Old 12-06-2017, 05:42 PM   #12
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Aksialne su najmočnije, tangencialne polovicu aksialnih i posredne polovicu tangencialnih.

Ništa pametno ne dobijaš, jer ionako trebaš da napraviš apsorbere koji efikasno djeluju od tamo gdje zvučnici rade.

A jednako značajno ti je i SBIR i LBIR!
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Old 12-06-2017, 08:47 PM   #13
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Aksialne su najmočnije, tangencialne polovicu aksialnih i posredne polovicu tangencialnih.

Ništa pametno ne dobijaš, jer ionako trebaš da napraviš apsorbere koji efikasno djeluju od tamo gdje zvučnici rade.

A jednako značajno ti je i SBIR i LBIR!
Da, ali ja vec imam apsorbere.... moje pitanje je bilo vezano za difuzore
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Old 13-06-2017, 05:02 PM   #14
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Pa odgovorio sam ti na to

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Da li racunam tangencialne ili posredne ?

I sta dobijam s tim kad to sracunam ?
A oko difuzora sam ti isto napisao, da pročitaj one skripte:
http://rumski.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42121

Ponajviše:
AES 3del Osnovni principi akusticnih dizajnov prostorov za kriticno poslusanje

Imaš u tom prostoru opciju; N-E, LEDE, MyRoom ili moj dizajn Controlled Absorptive Diffused Environment (nisam još smislio konačno poimenovanje ).

Prikladno akustičkom principu se namjeste difuzijske površine preko apsorbera!!!

Oko tvojih apsorbera sam ti rekao, da verovatno nisu dobri do nizkih frekvencija i da akustički izmjeriš i pogledaš šta si uopšte dostigao sa tim.
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Old 14-06-2017, 07:59 AM   #15
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Da li postoji negde formula za merenje aksialne refleksije ?

U tim skriptama u izracunavanju modalnih tangecialnih
f = c/2 * sqrt(p^2/L^2 + q^2/W^2)

Nema nigde visine (H). i sta mi predstavljaju p i q.

I da li racunam harmonike ?
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Old 14-06-2017, 12:00 PM   #16
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Evo vodiš pogreška sa moje strane, kad sam copy/ paste, hvala:

F = c/2 * sqrt(p^2/L^2 + q^2/W^2 + r^2/H^2)

http://gikacoustics.co.uk/what-are-room-modes/

A zašto bi sad "pješke" računao?

Pogledaju se modalne (i harmoniki) do cca. 150hz, iznad več rade absorberi iz srednje tvrde mineralne vune.
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Old 14-06-2017, 09:26 PM   #17
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Izvini sto sam dosadan al sad vec kad sam se "upetaljao" u ova merenja sad nema sanse da izadjem

Da rezimiramo...

Uzimam L,W i H sa vec postojanim apsorberima (zidovi + plafon) i onda to ubacujem u formulu
F = c/2 * sqrt(p^2/L^2 + q^2/W^2 + r^2/H^2)

gde su mi u prvom merenju p=1, q=0, r=0. i tu dobijam aksialnu ?
u drugom p=2, q=0, r=0 gde mi je to ustavi druga aksialna ili.... ????
i trece p=1, q=1, r=0 tangecialna ?
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Svakako dimenzije praznog prostora.
Ako nisu sve stene rigidne (cigla, beton...) i imas kakvu laganu gips konstrukciju, onda nizke lete van, izracunate modalne nece biti jednake kao izmjerene.

Za aksialne je simplificirana formula:
f = c / 2L
c = brzina zvuka (m/s)
L = dužina ili širina ili visina

Ako te zanimaju u detajle formule i slično, pročitaj koju stručnu knjigu.
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Nema gipsa

f= c/ 2*L(^2) ili bez ^2 ?

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f = c / 2 x L
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