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Old 10-10-2012, 12:19 AM   #81
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ali kada ide? na Real Time Analyzer (RTA) metodu onda treba? drugačiji signal a za to je pogodan ponavljajuči PN Pink Noise.
Za?to Pink PN a ne White PN?
Da li REW odrađuje kompenzaciju slope-a?
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:11 AM   #82
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise
http://homerecording.about.com/od/ho...Pink-Noise.htm
http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=80778
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+ pink noise ima osobitost da nijedna posamična frekvencija nije dovoljno dugo prisutna da se ustvari stoječi val.
S/N omjer kad se upotrebljava šum namjesto sweepa ima manji zvučni raspon ali za RTA analizu je prigodniji pink nego sweep.
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Inače ima i knjiga:
"A Sound Engineers Guide to Audio Test and Measurement"

U praksi pink noise se upotrebljava u akustici a white noise kod električkih merenja.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:31 AM   #83
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+ pink noise ima osobitost da nijedna posamična frekvencija nije dovoljno dugo prisutna da se ustvari stoječi val........
Ne vidim sta bi ogranicavalo pojedine frekvencije da budu "dovoljno dugo prisutne" da bi se formirao stojeci talas.
Cak i wavelet test (samo cetiri periode) koga smo pravili izaziva pojave koje izvezbanom uhu znace da postoji stojeci talas.

Wavelet test se moze downloadovati ovde:
http://prorecordingworkshop.lefora.c...ersonal-liste/
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To sam našao ili u jednoj knjizi ili u nekom manualu od akustičkog SW-ja, e sad gdje... verovatno ima razloga zašto svi koriste pink i ne toliko white noise i zašto je sweep nepraktičan kod RTA.
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To sam našao ili u jednoj knjizi ili u nekom manualu od akustičkog SW-ja, e sad gdje...
ako se sa PN Pink moze izmeriti impulsni odziv sa svim sobnim modovima koji figurisu u sobi, onda je definitivno sve dovoljno dugo da bi se uspostavili sobni modovi.
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verovatno ima razloga zašto svi koriste pink i ne toliko white noise i zašto je sweep nepraktičan kod RTA.
Kod starih RTA, koji mere spektralnu gustinu snage po oktavi pink noise odziv je konstantan, zato sto njegova spektralna gustina snage ima karakteristiku obrnuto proporcionalnu frekvenciji. Takodje, nacin na koji covek cuje zvukove, je blizi 1/f sumu (roze - pink) nego belom sumu.

Sobi je pri tom potpuno svejedno cime cemo da je mucimo, zvonice ona u svakom slucaju ako ima uslova za to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_noise


EDIT: BTW, pozicioniram zvucnike sa PN White, i nista mi nije! (mozda mi zbog toga opada kosa, ali ne zalim se, bice za bar jos dva pranja!)
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Jeste.
To je zapisano i u linkovima u jednom prija?njem postu:
http://www.rumski.com/forum/showpost...4&postcount=82

Najsavremeniji i manje osjetljiv na svemoguče poremečaje je sweep (Farina), koje je te?ko koristiti u RTA modu i razbrati rezultate
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