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|  15-08-2011, 10:23 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  Re: Plugovi sa vodenim zigom ! 
			
			Evo sta sam ja nasao negde... "Audiowatermarking embedds additional data and information in your audio. It is encoded in your audio, but the modification is normally so small, that people will not hear any significant difference. The audiowatermark can only be read by the company/person who embedded it. Still, it changes your audio, and the watermark cannot be removed by converting it to e.g. mp3 or other formats. It cannot be removed. Tone2 (Gladiator and ElectraX), Waves, Cytomic (The Glue) and some other companies use audiowatermarks in their software. The serialnumber maybe encoded in the audio for example. So if crackers don't remove the watermark, a track made with a pirated version can later be indentified by the company as such. Personally I am against watermarking, because IT DOES ALTER your audio. If every company would use watermarks, you will have lots of watermark in your audio, which can result in distortion/noise. It is just another stupid strategy in the fight against piracy, but it is reality in these days. It is also used by record companies, when they give out promo cds of unreleased albums to identify the potential uploader. I think it is ok in this situation, but it is not in audio plugins. Imagine you use 10 plugins that have watermarking in your track. Then your track has 10 watermarks. The thing is, the watermarks are always there, no matter if you are a legal buyer of the software or not." sa nekog foruma... 
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|  15-08-2011, 11:14 PM | #2 | |
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|  16-08-2011, 04:25 AM | #3 | 
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				 |  Re: Plugovi sa vodenim zigom ! 
			
			Prvo, to prepoznavanje muzike radi tako sto analizira vrlo jasan i glasan snimak pesme, a ne neki watermark (dakle nekakva izmena na kanalu sa krekovanim pluginom) koji bi trebalo da je toliko tih, da se i ne primeti.  Frekvencija je prilicno ogranicena, ne vidim gde bi mogli da imprintuju taj watermark i na kojoj glasnoci, da bi bila moguce dekodirati - u nekom subsonicnom ili ultrasonicnom delu spektra ? Ionako cu na izlazu iseckati to  Koliko treba da je kanal prisutan u miksu, da bi citanje toliko specificne informacije bilo moguce ? Sta je sa mesanjem tog zvucnog "potpisa" sa gomilom drugih efekata i kanala ? Jos i drugih "potpisa" ? Ma, cist SF. AiR je objavio svojevremeno da Tone2 firma u svoje pluginove stavljala nesto slicno trojancima, algoritme koji su se aktivirali na lose krekovanim verzijama, koji su navodno unistavali racunar, tj delovali kao pravi virusi, "telefonirali kuci" i slicno... Ali AiR ih je provalio  Digitalna zastita je nesto sasvim drugo. Konkretan podatak u hederu fajla, koji presnimavanjem kroz analogno - nestaje, jer ne prolazi kroz konvertore... Ovde je rec o tome da se "ANALOGNO" utisne nesto u zvuk - sto je glupost i namenjeno je zastrasivanju pirata-klinaca, koji masovno po svetu skidaju te pluginove. Ta teorija ne pije vodu po meni, mada... nikad se ne zna   
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