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Old 17-03-2010, 11:31 PM   #171
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ma k vragu sam se oporavio još uvijek sam... pardon...

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Zanimivo rješenje.
Obratna metoda.

Ali kako da koregujem udaljenje, da bi bilo koliko toliko objektivno?
Ako smo sad mjerili u sweet spotu... da bude jednako udaljen mikrofon u prostoru i mikrofon izvan "cigli"?
I onda A/B usporedba?

Usput: koji program upotrebljavaš za mjerenje?
Mozes da koristis program Prof. Dr. Ivo Mateljana sa Splitskog Univerziteta http://www.fesb.hr/~mateljan/ ... zove se ARTA... verovatno si vec cuo za njega.

Sto se tice korekcije SPL, moze da se koristi teoretska metoda, odnosno 1/r zakon. Kalkulator imas ovde http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distancelaw.htm

Napominjem da je metoda prilicno gruba... ali s obzirom da je izolacija navedenih zidova veoma ozbiljna... ne ocekujem toliku gresku koja bi cinila merenja neupotrebljivim... i +/-5dB tacnost je sasvim zadovoljavajuca (s obzirom da nema nikakvih dostupnih informacija)...

A sto se tice neravnina usled modova sobe... pa dobro... znamo gde su modovi sobe pa cemo ih ignorisati ... ne mora bas da bude sve jednostavno i ocigledno (citanje rezultata merenja zvucnika je prava vestina... i ko to krene da radi ... sve ostalo mu dodje "lako")

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Old 17-03-2010, 11:34 PM   #172
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da slično razmišljam ali hočem da bude čim više mjerodavno... da za neku orijentaciju če biti u redu.
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Old 17-03-2010, 11:36 PM   #173
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Ako sam dobro shvatio....
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da ne racunas te db sto otpadaju na slabljenje zvuka u vazduhu ...
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Old 17-03-2010, 11:38 PM   #174
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da slično razmišljam ali hočem da bude čim više mjerodavno... da za neku orijentaciju če biti u redu.

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Informacija da postojeci zid daje prosecnu izolaciju od ... recimo 50dB je za mene odlicna orijentacija! Makar realno bilo i 40dB ili 60dB ... svejedno je... sve je to dobro, vazno je da nije realno 20dB

Nigde mi ne zurimo... ako u medjuvremenu nadjem na netu ova merenja a da budu iole smislena i upotrebljiva.. javicu ovde da se ne mucis


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Old 17-03-2010, 11:42 PM   #175
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E super.
Da imam ga slučajno među zaznamcima i nisam ga još koristio, hvala!
Nadam se da je stabilan (room EQ i ETF nista baš stabilna)
Živi bili i videli!

Trebam još samo da se izvrši samo mjerenje... Vale ima dosta posla pa da se ga pričeka da nađe vremena.
Izgleda da se mu isplatila akustika
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E super.
Da imam ga slučajno među zaznamcima i nisam ga još koristio, hvala!
Nadam se da je stabilan (room EQ i ETF nista baš stabilna)
Živi bili i videli!
Zna da izazove BSOD na Lynx Studio L22... ali to je (samo) Lynx i to uradi odmah na pocetku ako promenis samplerate u medjuvremenu a startujes merenje... kad nista ne cackas po pitanju sample rate i broja bita (meni) radi stabilno.
Postoji veoma kvalitetno uputstvo za svaki od tri programa u paketu... preporucujem da se procita pre upotrebe...


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Old 17-03-2010, 11:53 PM   #177
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Trebam jo? samo da se izvr?i samo mjerenje... Vale ima dosta posla pa da se ga pričeka da nađe vremena.
rekoh vec... nema zurbe... cuvaj zdravlje... ali kad ugrabis priliku i smognes snage...
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Izgleda da se mu isplatila akustika
SJAJNO!!!

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da uvijek ne?to
... uh imao lynx nemam ga vi?e
tc katastrofa, rme bio veoma stabilan, novi driverji katastrofa... roll off novi driverji i stari nazad opet ne radi... iako je room eq ili etf...
Snači ču se nekako
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da uvijek nešto
... uh imao lynx nemam ga više
tc katastrofa, rme bio veoma stabilan, novi driverji katastrofa... roll off novi driverji i stari nazad opet ne radi... iako je room eq ili etf...
Snači ču se nekako

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p.s. Da, ARTA prilicno stabilno radi na starom Digigramu (PCMCIA)
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rekoh vec... nema zurbe... cuvaj zdravlje... ali kad ugrabis priliku i smognes snage...

SJAJNO!!!

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... ma zdravlje ko....

A ne, sad iz inata hoču kad si več načeo

Ali nisam posve razumeo:
... ako u medjuvremenu nadjem na netu ova merenja a da budu iole smislena i upotrebljiva.. javicu ovde da se ne mucis
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