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Old 11-09-2007, 05:33 PM   #1
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Ne znam da li Boggy ima neku pametnu ideju ili da idemo po starom...svercovanje iz Nemacke.
Hm, imam ideju ali ne znam koliko je pametna...

Jedini nacin je da se uporede ovi koji se (mozda, ne znam da li ih imaju na stanju) mogu nabaviti u Shapcu, i ovi tvoji novi... pa da se onda prica...

To bi iziskivalo kupovinu shabackih drajvera, razradjivanje, i merenje elektro/mehanickih parametara sva 4 drajvera.... tek tada mozemo govoriti o tome da li su "domaci" ekvivalentni ili ne.


posle merenja mozemo ustanoviti:

1. Drajveri su SVI vrlo slicni (normalna pojava kod "istih" elektromehanickih sprava)

2. Drajveri nisu vrlo slicni, odnosno mogu se grupisati na merenjima dva vrlo slicna nemacka i dva vrlo slicna shabacka, i to moze biti problem, ali ne mora, ako su razlike prihvatljive... to opet morate vi da ustanovite.

3. Drajveri su dosta razliciti, mogu se LAKO grupisati u parove prema mernim rezultatima, ali ce dizajn kabineta i skretnice dovesti do toga da ce picolino sa shabackim drajverima zvucati pogresno... tada jedino preostaje da dizajniramo "domaci" picolino... ispocetka...


Opremu za to imamo, tako da samo merenje nije problem.
Znanje i tehnologiju za dizajn "novog" picolina imamo, tako da ni to nije problem...


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Old 11-09-2007, 05:48 PM   #2
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Novosti povodom drajvera , buduci da Vifa kao firma vise ne postoji nego :
http://www.hifisound.de/oxid/oxid.ph...SCH-GESCHIRMT/

je isto sto i ovo

http://www.tymphany.com/datasheet/printview.php?id=156
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:53 PM   #3
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Ili ovo , sto je mnogo skuplja i prilicno bolja verzija od Vifa ( Peerless) drajvera

http://www.hifisound.de/oxid/oxid.ph...ALU-BREITBAND/
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:55 PM   #4
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Ili ovo , sto je mnogo skuplja i prilicno bolja verzija od Vifa ( Peerless) drajvera

http://www.hifisound.de/oxid/oxid.ph...ALU-BREITBAND/

Hm.... opet ja :o

Kabinet nece odgovarati

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Old 11-09-2007, 06:02 PM   #5
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Ili ovo , sto je mnogo skuplja i prilicno bolja verzija od Vifa ( Peerless) drajvera

http://www.hifisound.de/oxid/oxid.ph...ALU-BREITBAND/


Mislim da je Dejan mislio na ovo kao zamenu

http://www.dayens.co.yu/vifa/tgl.htm
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Mislim da je Dejan mislio na ovo kao zamenu

http://www.dayens.co.yu/vifa/tgl.htm
Jesi li saznao koliko kosta na par komada?

da... tu ima "belog" drajvera od 8ohm

TG9FD-10-08 (unshielded)
TG9FSD10-08 (shielded)

Shielded i unshielded se razlikuju po parametrima za neku... ajd... "nijansu"...

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Old 11-09-2007, 06:11 PM   #7
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Jesi li saznao koliko kosta na par komada?

da... tu ima "belog" drajvera od 8ohm

TG9FD-10-08 (unshielded)
TG9FSD10-08 (shielded)

Shielded i unshielded se razlikuju po parametrima za neku... ajd... "nijansu"...

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Kada mi je rekao da nemaju orginalne malo sam se "iskljucio" , tako da nisam sirio pricu na druge varijante jer mi je Dejan napomenuo da je i on nekad pravio pico line i da je tesko reci da li ce sa tg serijom to biti iole taj zvuk.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:31 PM   #8
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Kada mi je rekao da nemaju orginalne malo sam se "iskljucio" , tako da nisam sirio pricu na druge varijante jer mi je Dejan napomenuo da je i on nekad pravio pico line i da je tesko reci da li ce sa tg serijom to biti iole taj zvuk.
Sad sam pogledao, beli nemacki drajver, i TG drajver u Shapcu imaju prakticno "prepisane" karakteristike... vrlo je moguce da su to isti drajveri samo sa drugom oznakom... ako se i malo razlikuju, to ce biti pre kao da imate TG... drajver iz 2003 i recimo 2006... sto je skoro "normalna" pojava kod proizvodjaca zvucnika...

Ostaje da se vidi... moze li beli da zvuci kao zuti....

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Old 11-09-2007, 06:09 PM   #9
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Ok, u brzini sam iskopirao drugi link, isto to samo u verziji 8 oma.

Podrazumeva se da kod Jordana mora ici neka modifikacija ali buduci da je cena preko 200e po drajveru mislim da izlazimo iz budget varijante...to je bilo cisto za razmisljanje
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Olaksace se mnogo ako moze da se kupi kod Dayens-a, pod uslovom da su cene ok .
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