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Old 06-05-2006, 03:46 AM   #1
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Dali neko zna postoji li u Cubase 3 funkcija za Midi kao sto je za Audio funcija Time Stretch,znaci da moze Midi traka da se "sabije" na manji prostor ili konkretnije,odsviras midi,pa ga onda sabijes na duplo manji prostor,tako da odsvirana melodija dobije duplo brzi tempo.
Ne pitajte za sta mi ovo treba...
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Old 06-05-2006, 03:51 AM   #2
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Duplo ubrzas tempo...
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Old 06-05-2006, 04:06 AM   #3
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Selection tool (padajuca lista):
Sizes Apply Time Stretch

Uhvati se za midi part, smanji na pola i whoala.

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Old 07-05-2006, 01:19 AM   #4
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Duplo ubrzas tempo...
Pobogu......za toliko bas znam...
Ako vec moram da objasnjavam,svrha ovoga je da se jedan deo midi zapisa ubrza duplo,ali ne promenom tempa na tom delu,vec da sam midi svira duplo brze,prica je preduga...

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Old 07-05-2006, 09:31 AM   #5
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E, a sto meni ne menja tempo midija u Nuendu, kad promenim tempo u tempo tracku? Gde je to podesavanje. Mislim, tempo i grid se promene, a midi svira po starom, pa moram rucno da strecujem sve partove
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File -> Prefrences -> Editing -> Default Track Time Type (promeni na Musical)
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kontrola za svaki midi track:
Desni klik na midi track -> Track Controls Settings -> (desna strana Available controls) Toggle Timebase -> Add -> OK
To bi trebalo ubaciti ikonicu (casovnik-nota) na midi track pomocu koje prelazis iz linearnog u musical mod.
Inace Audio trake vec imaju po defaultu ovu ikonicu.
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Dali neko zna postoji li u Cubase 3 funkcija za Midi kao sto je za Audio funcija Time Stretch,znaci da moze Midi traka da se "sabije" na manji prostor ili konkretnije,odsviras midi,pa ga onda sabijes na duplo manji prostor,tako da odsvirana melodija dobije duplo brzi tempo.
Ne pitajte za sta mi ovo treba...

Ako hoces da isprogramiras neki sekvencer, a pretpostavljam da je to u pitanju (a mozda i nije), najlakse je i najpametnije da oboris tempo pre usnimavanja iste fraze, ako treba i duplo! A ako si vec to odsvirao, jedini nacin da "chachkash" midi je Quantizacija. Imas u Midi Functions i Lenght i ostale parametre, pa natrimuj sve to, al' malo ces se izdrkati... Veruj mi da je bolje da pre nego odsviras sve to spustis tempo, kako rekoh, cak i duplo... tj. kako ti je najzgodnije za svirku, pa ga , naravno, vrati na pravi beat! Time stretch u audiu prakticno radi isto to ili po frejmovima, sekundama (ili ms) ili po bitazi, a to je isto sto i kvantizacija u MIDI-ju, tj. to je jedini nacin... Naprimer- osminski isprogramiran pattern prebacujes u shesnaestinski, samo, problem je, kako rekoh, sto moras rucno da se izdrkas u toj varijanti! Primeni prvi primer, ustedeces i vreme i zivce... obori tempo, pa snimi ponovo...

Pozdrav... Ako ti ovo ne pomaze, daj mi konkretan primer problema... naravno da cemo ga reshiti!

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Old 08-05-2006, 12:04 AM   #8
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Vec je resen .Hvala vam svima na pomoci!
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File -> Prefrences -> Editing -> Default Track Time Type (promeni na Musical)
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kontrola za svaki midi track:
Desni klik na midi track -> Track Controls Settings -> (desna strana Available controls) Toggle Timebase -> Add -> OK
To bi trebalo ubaciti ikonicu (casovnik-nota) na midi track pomocu koje prelazis iz linearnog u musical mod.
Inace Audio trake vec imaju po defaultu ovu ikonicu.
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:57 PM   #10
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Postoji i logical preset u MIDI meniju koji sluzi upravo za ovo (double tempo, half tempo...). Selektujes note i izaberes odgovarajuci preset.
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