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Old 22-04-2006, 08:05 PM   #1
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Vec nekoliko puta primecujem da Behringer koristi vrlo solidne komponente na digitalnim spravama... ne stede toliko na njima... bice da su vec poprilicno teski sto se novca tice... i dobijaju dobre cene.
Za mene je zanimljiv podatak bio da onaj Behringerov digitalni mixer DDX 3216 ima u sebi Analog Devices SHARC DSP chipove, kakve imaju i Luna 2, Pulsar 2 i Scope...

Imao sam prilike da jednom radim usnimavanje koncerta tim mixerom i to i nije lose ispalo... koriscen je pomenuti mixer i iz njega optickim kablovima sesnaestokanalno u comp... Naravno, nikad ga ne bih kupio... iz drugih razloga...

Efekti mu jesu kud i kamo slabiji nego na pomenutim kartama, jer je, ipak, za ove karte napisan kud i kamo ozbiljniji i bolji DSP software...
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Old 22-04-2006, 08:09 PM   #2
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Za mene je zanimljiv podatak bio da onaj Behringerov digitalni mixer DDX 3216 ima u sebi Analog Devices SHARC DSP chipove, kakve imaju i Luna 2, Pulsar 2 i Scope...
Ma znam, isto je sa DCX2496 (digital crossover), ljudima to dobro radi... ima problema, ok... ali to radi i kosta oko 300EUR sa sve kutijom!
Dobar digitalni crossover moze ici i do 5000$

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Old 22-04-2006, 08:14 PM   #3
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Tacno! Evo upravo nadjoh na linku za njihov sajt koji si ostavio u prethodnom postu:
" But don’t be fooled by the ULTRADRIVE PRO’s sleek design. Its high-power 32-bit SHARC®-DSP and ultra-high resolution CRYSTAL®/AKM® A/D & D/A converter provide outstanding audio performance—and the servo-balanced, gold-plated XLR connectors for all inputs and outputs guarantee excellent connectivity for the years to come."

Boggy, izvini na smaranju i puno ti hvala na odgovorima!
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Old 22-04-2006, 08:17 PM   #4
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Tacno! Evo upravo nadjoh na linku za njihov sajt koji si ostavio u prethodnom postu:
" But don’t be fooled by the ULTRADRIVE PRO’s sleek design. Its high-power 32-bit SHARC®-DSP and ultra-high resolution CRYSTAL®/AKM® A/D & D/A converter provide outstanding audio performance—and the servo-balanced, gold-plated XLR connectors for all inputs and outputs guarantee excellent connectivity for the years to come."
I sto je najvaznije te komponente jesu unutra, i to solidno radi... koliko sam cuo imali su problem sa nakrivljenoscu frekventne karakteristike od 1dB/oct, kada treba da bude ravna... bug u softveru... ne znam da li su sada to resili...

Pri tom koriste najbolje digitalne atenuatore koji postoje na trzistu... Behringer ima neku ozbiljnu BANKU iza sebe... oni samo izgledaju jadno... ali pare zaradjuju... i to verovatno mnogo para.

Dodato kasnije:
U stvari, pre bi se reklo da im je dizajn nekonzistentan i ponekad aljkav, nedoradjen, nezavrsen.... sta god.. ali na komponentama vrlo cesto ne stede... izgleda kao da bukvalno guraju na trziste prvu stvar koja im proradi... nema peglanja... sto jeste usteda u vremenu i novcu...


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Old 23-04-2006, 03:01 AM   #5
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....ADI8 DS AD-AKM AK5392, DA - Analog Devices AD 1852s.
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Old 24-04-2006, 11:43 AM   #6
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....ADI8 DS AD-AKM AK5392, DA - Analog Devices AD 1852s.
Ovo je neka visa klasa nego codec sa pocetka price, doduse malo starija, ali tada je to neko veoma pazljivo izabrao... ili su za novu spravu koristili starije (jos uvek dobre) cipove zato sto su jeftiniji.

http://www.analog.com/en/prod/0,,761...1852%2C00.html
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/...92/ak5392.html

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Old 22-04-2006, 08:23 PM   #7
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Za mene je zanimljiv podatak bio da onaj Behringerov digitalni mixer DDX 3216 ima u sebi Analog Devices SHARC DSP chipove, kakve imaju i Luna 2, Pulsar 2 i Scope...
.....

Efekti mu jesu kud i kamo slabiji nego na pomenutim kartama, jer je, ipak, za ove karte napisan kud i kamo ozbiljniji i bolji DSP software...
Sto se tice Analog Devices, i SHARC DSP.... gledali smo to... masu stvari oko efekata su uradili vec u Analog Devices, i u kodu ih pozivas kao funkcije (slicno kao plug-inovi na vasem nivou)... nesto kao lego kocke... nije bas tako jednostavno ali za iskusnog programera za taj procesor, nije neki problem da dosta brzo "spuca" efekte za bilo koju spravu... vec sve ima solidnog kvaliteta... te ako cujete da neki efekti sa SHARC DSP zvuce isto od sprave do sprave.... onda je vrlo verovatno taj efekat realno pravio Analog Devices, a ne proizvodjac sprave.
Inace SHARC DSP se programira SAMO alatima koje obezbedjuje Analog Devices, dosta veliki deo koda je zatvoren i nevidljiv programerima... tako da tu moze da se pusti masti na volju, ali prilicna ogranicenja postoje...


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