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Old 29-03-2010, 04:12 AM   #1
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Default Re: Jedno malo (mozda glupo) pitanje u vezi +4 i -10 standarda.

Sad sam u manual-u procitao ovo.
Da li ovo znaci da se odnosi striktno moraju rucno regulisati u soft mikseru ? :S
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Main Inputs 1 and 2 ? These are balanced/unbalanced 1/4? TRS input connectors, located on the breakout cable. Any incoming signals
can be assigned via the software mixer panel and your DAW application. Connect your line level sources to these inputs

Main Outputs 1 and 2 ? These are balanced/unbalanced 1/4? TRS output connectors, located on the breakout cable. Their output signals
can be assigned only via your DAW application, however their overall level is affected by the WavOut 1/2 (S/W RET 1/2 on the Mac) level
faders in the software mixer panel. Connect these outputs to your headphone amplifier, auxiliary amplifier, or external recording device, if
applicable


Main Inputs:
Max Input +14.2dBu (+4 Vrms) Balanced
+14.2dBu (+4 Vrms) Unbalanced


Main Outputs
Max Output +14dBu (+3. 9 Vrms) Balanced
+8dBu (+1.95 Vrms) Unbalanced


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Sad kapiram, neko ce mi reci "Pa koristi nebalansirane" Nije frka, ali me zanima zasto je sve tako

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Old 29-03-2010, 04:28 PM   #2
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Mozda malo glup odgovor,trebalo bi ako vec imas opciju da koristis balansirane ne samo zbog jacine signala vec zbog odnosa signal sum i uzemljenja,ja kada sam imao deltu koja je slicna tvojoj karti imao sam opciju(softversku) da atenuiram ulaze,trebalo bi da imas -10 opciju na mixer/routeru na inputima.
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Old 29-03-2010, 05:09 PM   #3
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Mozda malo glup odgovor,trebalo bi ako vec imas opciju da koristis balansirane ne samo zbog jacine signala vec zbog odnosa signal sum i uzemljenja,ja kada sam imao deltu koja je slicna tvojoj karti imao sam opciju(softversku) da atenuiram ulaze,trebalo bi da imas -10 opciju na mixer/routeru na inputima.
Pa naravno da treba da koristim balansirane isto i ja mislim!
Pa ne mogu da nadjem tu opciju nigde jebem mu...
Na digi 002r sam imao switcher, a ovde stvarno ne mogu da nadjem, niti pise negde u uputstvu
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Old 30-03-2010, 11:00 AM   #4
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Pajseri,mozda ima neki update softvera sa tom funkcijom...
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Old 30-03-2010, 11:13 AM   #5
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Pajseri,mozda ima neki update softvera sa tom funkcijom...
Bas da ih j***m.
Ja sam bio skinuo zadnje drajvere i imao sam clicks and pops i plave ekrane.
I pitao sam njihovo osoblje zasto se to desava i oni su me pitali koju plocu imam blabla i dali mi verziju drajvera koja ce mi raditi stabilno..Mada na onoj novoj futuristickoj ja se ne secam da je isto bilo varijante birati +4, -10 i to.
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Old 30-03-2010, 11:48 AM   #6
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Hm, imam i ja tu kartu trenutno u nekom prastarom PC-u, i moram priznati da se ja uopste nisam zezao sa tim podesavanjima. Pretpostavljam da karta automatski prebacuje sa +4 na -10 kada se na nju poveze balansirani kabl. Ja sam je doduse skoro od pocetka koristio samo sa balansiranim kablovima, tako da je vozim na +4dbv. Signal je cist i lep ki suza u oku device.
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Hm, imam i ja tu kartu trenutno u nekom prastarom PC-u, i moram priznati da se ja uopste nisam zezao sa tim podesavanjima. Pretpostavljam da karta automatski prebacuje sa +4 na -10 kada se na nju poveze balansirani kabl. Ja sam je doduse skoro od pocetka koristio samo sa balansiranim kablovima, tako da je vozim na +4dbv. Signal je cist i lep ki suza u oku device.
Evo sta mi je moderator za M-Audio sajta odgovorio:

Considering all the inputs, expect for the S/PDIF input/output, are all mono.

Mono plugs will work quite well. Balanced cables will have their advantages, but considering the mono nature of the card, there's no point. Just like that. Also, if the balanced cables work worse than mono (as you seem to have displayed through testing) there's no reason to use them.


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Da nisi mozda i ti imao jaci signal svo vreme bez da si to primetio?
I da nisu, na osnovu ovog odgovora kojeg sam dobio od moderatora m-audio-a, malo oni prevarili ljude?
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.....Pretpostavljam da karta automatski prebacuje sa +4 na -10 kada se na nju poveze balansirani kabl........
Nema bas trivijalnog nacina da se ovakav "feature" konstrukciono resi... tako da je pretpostavka/nada jalova....

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