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Old 17-10-2015, 06:56 PM   #1
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Mozda sam promashio podfurm al se nadam da ce biti zaniljivo za chitanje
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Old 07-01-2016, 10:39 PM   #2
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Samo obnavljam sliku koja je pukla...

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Old 08-01-2016, 11:30 PM   #3
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Na osnovu cega oni biraju neki standard, zar nije za radio na -23bdfs? zasto youtube normalizuje na na -13dbfs?
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:03 AM   #4
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Ako kazem: "oni su previshe veliki da bi neko njima odredjivao standarde"
siguran sam da ima malo istine u tome...
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...changes in loudness are the number one cause of complaints from listeners...
To je sve shto je njih interesovalo, da sve bude ujednacheno za slusahnje...
nisu ih muzichki standardi ni zanimali... niti shta se deshva s muzikom...
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Na osnovu cega oni biraju neki standard, zar nije za radio na -23bdfs? zasto youtube normalizuje na na -13dbfs?
Radio je kompleksniji medij od streaming hostova. Raznorodan je sadržaj – ima tu i govora i živog programa (samim tim i raznih nepredviđenih stvari), pa je potreban i veći headroom.

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Radio je kompleksniji medij od streaming hostova. Raznorodan je sadržaj – ima tu i govora i živog programa (samim tim i raznih nepredviđenih stvari), pa je potreban i veći headroom.



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Jel' to znaci da za radio treba poseban mastering? Tj. za svaku "namenu" poseban master ako ne zelis da izgubis kvalitet???
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Old 09-01-2016, 11:43 AM   #7
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Ma ne. Poenta tih novih standarda je u tome da miksaš onako kako želiš da tvoja muzika zvuči, bez prisile da budeš najglasniji na svetu. Odnosno, više nema smisla onoliko bezdušno limitovati master kad će u programu ionako sve biti puštano sa manje-više istom čujnošću.

Ovo što sam napisao je vrlo pojednostavljeno. Neko je ranije kačio predavanje lika koji objašnjava EBU R128 standard. Nisam pri računaru, kasnije ću okačiti link na tu temu.

Kako god, stvari se pomeraju u dobrom pravcu.

EDIT: Nema šanse da pronađem temu, evo videa direktno sa YT.



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Old 09-01-2016, 01:22 PM   #8
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Nije bas da je youtube uvek normalizovan, nekim danima je normalizovan, nekim nije... Znam po pesmama na kojima sam ja radio, nekim danima su tihe nekim danima su glasne i na peakmetru udaraju do kraja...Nije mi to jasno, mislio sam da ce permanentno da to rese
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Ako je u zadnjih par meseci, onda mi to nishta nije chudno... poshto od kad su promenili
izgled nikako sve da ispeglaju kako treba... a inache valjda bi trebalo da radi non stop...
Znam da od kada je krenul sa normalizacijom nije bash sve ishlo galtko niti je radila svima.
Mozda su opet neshto zzzz...
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Music Streaming Services – Bring Peace to the Loudness War

Recommendation for Loudness of Audio Streaming and Network File Playback



Bring Peace to the Loudness War (petition)

* sve tri stvari s gore pomenutog linka...
mislim da je neko vec ovaj pdf kachio na forumu, a mozda se i greshim...
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