Shure SM 58 ver Behringer SM8500??????

[Adi]

Evo dva mesta gde sam nasao (a ima i cak vise na netu koji tvrde isto), u poredjenju Shure SM58 i Behringera XM8500, da SM58 nema skoro nikakvih prednosti u odnosu na XM8500, i da je cak u nekim stvarima XM8500 i u prednosti, kao sto je naprimer frekvencijski odziv itd.
Sta mislite o tome. Pa ako je tako onda je varijanta XM8500 daleko povoljnija, to moze biti korisno ako niste pri vecoj kinti, ili samo dobar EPP (reklama).

Evo tekstova:

Prvi tester kaze:
The next thing I tried was comparing it to a Shure SM58. I swapped from mic to mic and asked the crowd which they preferred. Those who could tell the difference preferred the XM8500! There wasn't a lot in it. The XM8500 definitely had a little more bottom end and perhaps wasn't quite as bright as the SM58. I would say that the XM8500 has a flatter frequency response than the SM58. The SM58 rolls off a bit of the bottom end and has a little presence boost. The XM8500 was also slightly louder and needed less gain on the mixer than the SM58
After comparing it with the Shure SM58, I pulled out my Shure Beta58 - my usual stage mic. The Beta58 was brighter (as I would have expected) but one didn't sound better than the other - they were just different. The crowd were divided between which sounded better. I guess it's just down to personal preference!
The final test was to have four XM8500s plugged in simultaneously. I ran the whole workshop on the Behringer mics. One thing I noticed was that they didn't feedback easily - certainly less than the SM58s I use. This mic was surely too good to be true!

Drugi tester kaze:
"I also tested the microphones I owned by comparing them with a B&K reference condenser microphone, and since I didn't have access to an anechoic chamber, I had to resort to testing them in my garden. It was the closest environment that I could get to an acoustic-free field, although my neighbours must have been puzzled at the pink noise wafting through the air. Still, it was great fun testing these microphones, which I did by looking at the transfer function between the reference B&K mic and my own microphones.

"The two mikes have to be placed as close as possible to each other with pink noise blasted at them from a hi-fi speaker, which is positioned about one meter away. In this way, the frequency response of the loudspeaker enclosure doesn't matter, providing that it can reproduce some sound energy from 40Hz to 20kHz. By far the best dynamic microphone in terms of the frequency response was the Behringer XM8500 Ultravoice unit. It even surpassed my Shure SM58 and a Sennheiser e845 that I also have in my small collection. These mics can be purchased for around ?20 and therefore represent excellent value for money. I bought five of them, including small boom stands and balanced cables from Allan Gordon. The Behringer XM2000S has exactly the same dynamic capsule and is equally as good."

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[OFF]

Dok sam radio u jednoj radnji naprodavao sam se krsh tih behringer mikrofona bas u poredjenju sa SM58. Ukljucim, jedan, drugi.... SM58 skuplji 4 puta a radi za nijansu bolje.... prodato.
Ali........ kad sam prvi put odneo Behr. na svirku i ukapirao da ga je nemoguce obuzdati, a da ne bruji, uji, peva, i pisti, rekao sam - nikad vise. Nije dzabe SM58 to sto jeste ves 20tak godina (pricam za live)

[Tiki the Boyler]

Smiješno! Ti mikrofoni su super kada nemaš love a treba ti nešto o glavu! Ali za nešto ozbiljno... Nema šanse!
A što se SM58 tiče... potop se desio onog dana kada se pojavio ElectroVoice N/D767...

[Adi]

Originally Posted by Tiki the Boyler

Smije?no! Ti mikrofoni su super kada nema? love a treba ti ne?to o glavu! Ali za ne?to ozbiljno... Nema ?anse!
A ?to se SM58 tiče... potop se desio onog dana kada se pojavio ElectroVoice N/D767...

Tvoja konstatacija je tacna, a model koji si pomenuo je izgleda stvarno odlican. Kada me nesto bude interesovalo i budem pitao, javi mi se obavezno na tridove, jer uvek cujem od tebe nesto OK.
Samo jedno pitanje, a sta je sa merenjima koja su obavljali ljudi koji su testirali MS58 i XM8500, jesu li to patke ili...????
Pozdrav

[Adi]

Tiki, neces verovati ali za dve-tri nedelje mi stize taj mikrofon iz USA, tamo je 129$, donosi mi ga jedan prijatelj, jeftiniji nego SM58 kod nas,
Adi

[Tiki the Boyler]

Originally Posted by Adi

Samo jedno pitanje, a sta je sa merenjima koja su obavljali ljudi koji su testirali MS58 i XM8500, jesu li to patke ili...????

Mjerenja nisu uvijek odraz pravog stanja! To što je frekvencijski opseg veliki ne znači da je to obavezno dobro. Ja npr. u bendu za ekstremno teške situacije koristim ElectroVoice N/D 967 koji ima opseg 120Hz-13kHz što je na prvu ruku čudno, ali to "izlazi" do jaja, a na sve to NIKAD neće napraviti problem sa mikrofonijom!
Drugo, piše li u tim testovima kakva je Behringeru dinamika, kolika nelinearna izobličenja unosi, kako se ponaša vremenom i na kraju krajeva koliko mu je ta široka frekvencijska karakteristika "ravna"... ???
Ne znam sa čim bih ti to uporedio... Džaba ti 20cm ako ne možeš ljuljati pola sata!

btw. 767-ica je ovde oko 130EUR!