Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! - Page 8

**boggy** · 05-08-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by roginator

iduci tjedan cu dobit dva samplea...pa cu probati...javim ti rezultat!!!!!

Super... HVALA!!! BAS me zanima!!!

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BTW kao je moguce da postoji tolika razlika izmedju Texas instrumentsa 5534 AP i Signetic 5534 A ili N..signetic je opako muzikalan, a AP vrlo sterilan u odnosu na AN?????

NE ZNAM!!! Razlike sigurno postoje... nema tu misterije!

Sa tim stvarima se borim na sledeci nacin:
Pitam "kako ti zvuci"... i onda statistika... uzasno sam dosadan sa tim... ali jbg.

Ili povremeno "nekriticki" preuzmem tudje analize i iskustva.
Ali prvo bojazljvo obidjem drugare... da proverim

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imas li gdje source za signetice????

Ne... to se valjda vise ne proizvodi...
U tom slucaju, ako se i moze naci... onda se na to moze racunati samo za DIY... sto meni ne odgovara...

U Sparrow sam koristio brutalnije cipove... fully balanced po konstrukciji... malo skuplji za izradu... ali su novi i muzikalni...
U miksere ih ne stavljaju... koliko znam... PRESKUPO!!! Valjda... ima tu i dosta inercije... skupo je igrati se sa raznim komponentama... nezahvalan posao...

pozdrav

bogi

**boggy** · 05-08-2007, 09:07 PM

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inace SPARROW izgleda OPAKO!!!!!

Hvala!

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koje bi mi pojacalo preporucio za NS 10m??? ono vase...

Da.

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volio bih to cut!!!!!

Ajd... kad god hoces... gde god hoces i kako god hoces

Pa ti sad izaberi

pozdrav

bogi

roginator · 06-08-2007, 09:44 PM

evo vrijeme za VCA...uh jos malo i gotovo

evo Boggy

pin 1 signal input
pin 2 +15v
pin 3 control (from fader)
pin 4 ground
pin 5 signal out
pin 6 -15v

na mojim PCB mosulima je 5534 (ne 741!!!)

R1008 je calibration trim
VCA = DBX 202c

Evo sto mi je rekao LARRY LAMORAY
jedan od vodecih Ljudi MCI i osoba koja je sastavljala MCI pultove u EX Jugi

The only thing I remember - vaguely - about the VCA's is that they were

DBX-201s or -202s (I think), and seem to recall that they needed to be
optimized at the "0" Fader setting (sweet spot) for +4 in and out of
the
module

ajde sad...
a: dali da to stelam u pultu ili van njega....
b: kako
c: kojim softwareom:
d: koja procedura....

hebiga nisam nikad to radio (jumfer) pa mi treba malo inputa

roginator · 06-08-2007, 09:46 PM

e imam jos jedan info samo da ga najdem

roginator · 06-08-2007, 09:50 PM

OVO IMAM O STELANJU NOVOG MCI VCA MC 202 ali nije stelanje kao kod orginalnog PCBA...bar mislim

you'll need a 10K pot act as the "Fader"

Install the 4 resistors as noted above (R1010, R1011, R1003, R1006)

On the MCI Board:

Pin 1 is the input for the 1K tone from a low distortion oscillator
Pin 2 is +15vdc from bench power supply
Pin 3 is to the wiper and one outside terminal of the 10K pot (tie
together)
Pin 4 is ground: tie the other terminal of the pot here along with your
audio grounds
Pin 5 is output to distortion analyzer input
Pin 6 is -15vdc

Adjustment procedure:

Place VCA modules on fixture powered by +/- 15vdc
Set ocilliator output to 1K @0dBv and input to Pin 1
Adjust the 10k pot so that the module provides 0dB of gain (unity)
This voltage, measured at the 10K pots wiper should be around -51vdc
Adkust the pot on the VCA module for minimum THD (distortion)
The THD should be around .007% using a 30Khz cutoff.
Make the resistor changes on the other MCI VCA cards and Install
modules.

roginator · 06-08-2007, 09:52 PM

ako se ne varam mogu kao signal koristiti MCI jev OSCILLATOR na 1khz?????

to bi bilo super.......

JER SAM GA FINO SREDIO I REKAPIRAO!!!!!!

**boggy** · 06-08-2007, 10:31 PM

Prvo, imas RME? Ok.. da li on ima balansirane (analogne) ulaze i izlaze? (nemam RME pa pitam)

Drugo... u kakvoj ti je masini RME? PC ili MAC?

pozdrav

bogi

roginator · 06-08-2007, 10:41 PM

RME NEMA BAL in out ..IMA ALPHA LINK ALI MISLIM DA CU POSUDIT RME MULTIFACE ZA OVO....

ZA SAD JE SVE U MACU ALI ZA 30 minuta sve moze bit u PCu

**boggy** · 06-08-2007, 10:59 PM

Ajd da ne gnjavim...

Za ovo ti treba pristojna profesionalna karta sa balansiranim stereo in i stereo out... koja moze 24bit na 48 i 96kHz.

Strasno bi olaksalo posao ako bi ta karta bila u PC pod Windows XP.

pozdrav

bogi

p.s. gde pobeze?

roginator · 06-08-2007, 11:07 PM

recimo da to imam od sutra podne!!!

PC XP sp1 i MULTIFACE RME...96k 24 BITA!!!!!!!!!

balansirani i nebalansirani I/O po zelji

a Software .....??? idem gledat na net

06-08-2007, 09:44 PM	#73
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! evo vrijeme za VCA...uh jos malo i gotovo evo Boggy pin 1 signal input pin 2 +15v pin 3 control (from fader) pin 4 ground pin 5 signal out pin 6 -15v na mojim PCB mosulima je 5534 (ne 741!!!) R1008 je calibration trim VCA = DBX 202c Evo sto mi je rekao LARRY LAMORAY jedan od vodecih Ljudi MCI i osoba koja je sastavljala MCI pultove u EX Jugi The only thing I remember - vaguely - about the VCA's is that they were DBX-201s or -202s (I think), and seem to recall that they needed to be optimized at the "0" Fader setting (sweet spot) for +4 in and out of the module ajde sad... a: dali da to stelam u pultu ili van njega.... b: kako c: kojim softwareom: d: koja procedura.... hebiga nisam nikad to radio (jumfer) pa mi treba malo inputa

06-08-2007, 09:46 PM	#74
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! e imam jos jedan info samo da ga najdem

06-08-2007, 09:50 PM	#75
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! OVO IMAM O STELANJU NOVOG MCI VCA MC 202 ali nije stelanje kao kod orginalnog PCBA...bar mislim you'll need a 10K pot act as the "Fader" Install the 4 resistors as noted above (R1010, R1011, R1003, R1006) On the MCI Board: Pin 1 is the input for the 1K tone from a low distortion oscillator Pin 2 is +15vdc from bench power supply Pin 3 is to the wiper and one outside terminal of the 10K pot (tie together) Pin 4 is ground: tie the other terminal of the pot here along with your audio grounds Pin 5 is output to distortion analyzer input Pin 6 is -15vdc Adjustment procedure: Place VCA modules on fixture powered by +/- 15vdc Set ocilliator output to 1K @0dBv and input to Pin 1 Adjust the 10k pot so that the module provides 0dB of gain (unity) This voltage, measured at the 10K pots wiper should be around -51vdc Adkust the pot on the VCA module for minimum THD (distortion) The THD should be around .007% using a 30Khz cutoff. Make the resistor changes on the other MCI VCA cards and Install modules.

06-08-2007, 09:52 PM	#76
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! ako se ne varam mogu kao signal koristiti MCI jev OSCILLATOR na 1khz????? to bi bilo super....... JER SAM GA FINO SREDIO I REKAPIRAO!!!!!!

06-08-2007, 10:31 PM	#77
boggy Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beograd Posts: 6,200	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! Prvo, imas RME? Ok.. da li on ima balansirane (analogne) ulaze i izlaze? (nemam RME pa pitam) Drugo... u kakvoj ti je masini RME? PC ili MAC? pozdrav bogi __________________ @Facebook @Instagram Email: boggy@myroom-acoustics.com --"We can never see past the choices we don't understand." (Oracle, The Matrix Reloaded)

06-08-2007, 10:41 PM	#78
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! RME NEMA BAL in out ..IMA ALPHA LINK ALI MISLIM DA CU POSUDIT RME MULTIFACE ZA OVO.... ZA SAD JE SVE U MACU ALI ZA 30 minuta sve moze bit u PCu

06-08-2007, 10:59 PM	#79
boggy Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beograd Posts: 6,200	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! Ajd da ne gnjavim... Za ovo ti treba pristojna profesionalna karta sa balansiranim stereo in i stereo out... koja moze 24bit na 48 i 96kHz. Strasno bi olaksalo posao ako bi ta karta bila u PC pod Windows XP. pozdrav bogi p.s. gde pobeze? __________________ @Facebook @Instagram Email: boggy@myroom-acoustics.com --"We can never see past the choices we don't understand." (Oracle, The Matrix Reloaded)

06-08-2007, 11:07 PM	#80
roginator MCI Master Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,509	Re: Malo O Mci Desku ..pitanje Za El.strucnjake!!! recimo da to imam od sutra podne!!! PC XP sp1 i MULTIFACE RME...96k 24 BITA!!!!!!!!! balansirani i nebalansirani I/O po zelji a Software .....??? idem gledat na net

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