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Old 03-04-2004, 11:28 PM   #1
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Default ORKESTRALNA SIMULACIJA UZ PANNING, REVERB I CHORUS

ORKESTRALNA SIMULACIJA UZ PANNING, REVERB I CHORUS

Za postizanje simulacije orkestra, njihove karakteristike smjestaja moraju biti uzete u obzir.

Dolje slijedi tabela gdje je konvertiran
? raspored instrumenata u prostoru - panning,
? njihova dubina ili blizina za ciju implikaciju koristimo reverb (odnosno vremensko kasnjenje prema udaljenosti)
? te vrijednost chorus?a koja pokazuje odnos izmedu dijelova sa obracanjem paznje na njihov stvarni broj (udvostrucenih) instrumenata

U tablici (koja bi bila jasnija i ljepsa da mogu jednostavno iskopirati tekst iz word-a, a da ostane formatiran - decki sredite toooo!!) je koristen rang MIDI kontrolera od 0 ? 127 (0-skroz lijevo, 127-skroz desno).

Vazno je napomenuti da su glasnoca i dinamika nota posebno vazne u produciranju efekata u prostoru sa reverbom i panningom, takoder.

Tablica koja slijedi bazirana je na grafickoj ilustraciji iz knjige ?Musical Instruments of the World ? An Illustrated Encylopedia by the Diagra Group?, 1976, str. 292-295.

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Orchestra	1 2 3 4      	1	2	3	4        	1	2	3	
Emulations	Panning		                	Reverb				Chorus*			 

[b][Woodwinds][/b]													 
Piccolo	53	45	30	45	73	72	76	72	1			 
Flute		58	62	56	52	73	72	76	72	3	2		 
Oboe		70	80	65	65	73	72	76	72	3	2	 2+2%	
Eng. Horn	56	84	69	73	73	72	76	72	1			
Clarinet	50	65	75	47	90	89	76	89	3	2		
Bs.Clarinet	57	58	80	41	90	89	76	89	1			
Bassoon	71	80	86	65	90	89	76	89	3	2	1	
C.Bassoon	81	90	90	73	90	89	76	89	1			

[b][Brass]	[/b]
												
Horn		52	54	54	43	106	106	96	106	4	2	2	
Trumpet	74	77	71	67	106	106	96	106	4	2	2	
Trombone	86	93	86	80	106	106	96	106	4			
Tuba		93	101	93	84	106	106	96	106	1			

[b][Percussion][/b]													
Tam-tam	69	73	73	47	119	119	114	119	1			
Cymbals	75	86	82	60	119	119	114	119	2			
Xylophone	82	95	90	73	119	119	114	119	1			
Glock.		93	101	97	82	119	119	114	119	1			
Tub.Bells	98	108	103	90	119	119	114	119	1			
Side Drum	44	41	39	24	119	119	114	119	1			
Bass Drum	52	50	50	30	119	119	114	119	1			
Timpani	61	67	66	39	119	119	114	119	2	2	2	

[b][Strings][/b]													
Harp	4	0	0	0	124	124	124	124	2			
1st Violin	25	26	22	28	64	64	64	64	15	7	3	
2nd Violin	37	41	37	101	64	64	64	64	15	7	3	
Viola		66	73	67	60	33	42	42	42	12	6	3	
Cello		96	101	97	86	49	68	68	68	10	4	2	
Double Bass	120	123	121	103	112	93	93	93	8	2	1	
													
Harpsichord	60				0				1
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*Chorus colums 1-3 refer to # of instruments for "typical" orchestras*1=Romantic (c.1850)
*2=Classical (c.1790)
*3=Baroque (c.1720)
%=2 Oboes plus 1 oboe d'amore and 1 oboe da caccia
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Znam da je tablica nejasna jer se sve stisnulo. Ali ako sto pomaze.... znaci - prva 4 stupca odnose se na panning, pa slijedeca 4 na reverb, pa posljednja tri na chorus koji moze varirati u postocima, kao uostalom i sve ostalo za sto postoje 4 navedene varijante.

Ja chorus ne koristim uopce (ili stvarno malo), jer jednostavno koristim samplove grupa instrumenata (vise oboa ili flauta itd.).

Uglavnom, ovaj panning stvarno ima utjecaj na dozivljaj stvarnosti orkestra.

Naravno, obratite paznju na to da ako radite sa nepotpunim orkestrom ili samo sa npr. violinama (bez viola, cella i kontrabasa) da je to onda sve malo drugacija prica. Sto se tice aranziranja gudaca za pop glazbu, o tome cu pisati slijedeci tjedan.
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Ovo je stvarno mocna stvar...hvala ti
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Eto... a ti se nadrndao sto sam je stavio ispred tebe... :roll: Budi srecan sto iza tebe nije kVu sa onim laserskim machem
Da, ali stavio si kvu-a tocno iza mene, a nisi razmisljao sto ako mene napadne s tim laserskim macem? A ja sam mislila da smo prijatelji, idekiuse!
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Da, ali stavio si kvu-a tocno iza mene, a nisi razmisljao sto ako mene napadne s tim laserskim macem? A ja sam mislila da smo prijatelji, idekiuse!
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