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Old 08-10-2013, 12:06 AM   #1
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Smile POMOC "trick" -6db +6db ???

Valjda se dobiju dobri rezultati kada se na grupisanom bubanj kanalu prije saturacije oduzmu nekih 6 decibela, a poslije saturacije se tih 6 doda u niskim frekvencijama.

Zna li ko sta o tome,kako se to radi,kako izvesti taj "trick".

P.s ovo sam zasljedijo,pa mi nije jasno,ako moze pomoc ?

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Old 08-10-2013, 03:14 AM   #2
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Sta god zasljedijo- wtf saturacija ?

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Old 08-10-2013, 02:26 PM   #3
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Meni +-6db izgleda mnogo
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Old 08-10-2013, 05:00 PM   #4
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Možda se radi o tome da digneš signal za 6 (ili koliko god) decibela, saturiraš ga i onda spustiš za isto toliko da bi level bio na ulazu i izlazu isti. To ima smisla. To neki tube preampi imaju kao normalnu opciju i koristi se stalno (recimo UA 610).
Stišavati prije saturacije je besmisleno...
I što je to saturacija u ovom slučaju? Lampe valjda?
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Old 08-10-2013, 08:34 PM   #5
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chovek misli na low shelf -6db pre saturacije pa da ga vrati posle da bi izbegao prljanje basa i saturiro samo srednje i visoke, shto da ne, neki sturatori imaju i multiband opciju da samo saturirash odredjene delove spektra.
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chovek misli na low shelf -6db pre saturacije pa da ga vrati posle da bi izbegao prljanje basa i saturiro samo srednje i visoke, shto da ne, neki sturatori imaju i multiband opciju da samo saturirash odredjene delove spektra.
Da, to sam.zasledijo low shelf -6 db i saturacija i onda +6db.

Problem je sto ja to nisam nikad radijo,pa me zanima kako se to radi ??
Jel ta saturacija misljena za master ili za posamicne kanale/grupe ?

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Old 09-10-2013, 03:30 AM   #7
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chovek misli na low shelf -6db pre saturacije pa da ga vrati posle da bi izbegao prljanje basa i saturiro samo srednje i visoke, shto da ne, neki sturatori imaju i multiband opciju da samo saturirash odredjene delove spektra.
Da, to sam.zasledijo low shelf -6 db i saturacija i onda +6db.

Problem je stoa to nisam nikad radijo,pa me zanima kako se to radi ??
Jel taj LOW SHELF misljen za master ili za posamicne kanale/grupe ?

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Da, to sam.zasledijo low shelf -6 db i saturacija i onda +6db.

Problem je stoa to nisam nikad radijo,pa me zanima kako se to radi ??
Jel taj LOW SHELF misljen za master ili za posamicne kanale/grupe ?

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Gabriel Roth, producent Amy Winehouse, prica u ovom intervjuu da je to radio sa pravom takom:

"Roth employs other techniques to get the classic soul sound. "I roll some low end off the tracks, around 80Hz to 100Hz, before they get to tape," he explains. "The lowest frequencies have the most energy and they [saturate] the tape before the rest of the sound has a chance to get the benefit of the nice tape distortion. This lets the distortion take place closer to the upper range of the sound and keeps it tight. I'll put the low end back in during the mix if it's necessary."

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun0...es/daptone.htm


Ja sam to par puta radio na svim i svacim...

Misli se na to da nekim EQ-om skines par db pre saturacije i posle saturacije dodas tih par db...
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Sjajna fora! Nije mi nikada palo na pamet!
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Sjajna fora! Nije mi nikada palo na pamet!

Dodje mu slicno kao HPF sidechain knob na kompresorima .... A ono istina, bass uvek prvi krene da saturira
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