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25-11-2012, 06:12 PM
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Re: Skyline
Ok, moja greska, ali koji god da je, koliku najmanju sirinu column-a mogu bezbedno da stavim u AcousticCalculator programu?
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25-11-2012, 06:41 PM
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Re: Skyline
... ima? na onom linku ba? sve obrazlo?eno a i kalkulator ti sve računa.
I ovdje ima? napisano oko toga: http://www.rumski.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33893 Debelina "letve"/well-a defini?e koliko visoko difuzuje (min. je priporučeno 25mm) ako je deblji well ni?e difuzuje, a globina defini?e koliko nizko difuzira.
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26-11-2012, 02:37 AM
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Aha, znaci minimalno preporuceno je 2.5cm (6880hz). Ok, a sta bi se desilo kada bih stavio, na primer, 2cm (8600hz), jel samo ne bi imalo efekta na frekvencije od 6880hz do 8600hz, ili bi takav difuzor bio zvucno "pogresan" u odnosu na taj od 2.5cm? Zasto je minimalno preporuceno bas 25mm? Da li zato sto visoke frekvencije iznad 6880hz ne mogu efikasno da se difuzuju, ili neki drugi razlog?
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26-11-2012, 07:39 AM
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Re: Skyline
verovatno zato sto se sve te freq veoma lako apsorbuju u prostoru.... ja cak ne bih isao ispod 5cm......kod mene je cak 7cm sirina
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26-11-2012, 09:18 AM
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Re: Skyline
Pa da citiram, što kaže teorija:
"The well width less than the minimum 25mm to avoid viscous losses - Serious viscous losses may be encountered". A i dosta je visoko cca. 7000Hz, treba je uzeti u obazir da difuzor nema naglog cut-off-a pa nudi scattering još nagore.
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26-11-2012, 09:27 AM
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Takodje imaj u vidu da je sweet spot na zvucnicima vec iznad 5kHz veoma uzak, te treba veliki trud uloziti na pozicioniranje i difuzora i zvucnika, da bi se uopste "gadjali"...
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26-11-2012, 09:56 AM
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Re: Skyline
Aha, ok, znaci, u sustini, ne bi bilo nikakvog dodatnog efekta (razlike, ne bi se nista dobilo) sa 2cm sirine u odnosu na 2.5cm? Jos jedno pitanje.
Zna li neko mozda (barem otprilike) sirinu Column-a na difuzorima u ovoj prostoriji http://i50.tinypic.com/xepnqq.jpg Hvala na brzim odgovorima Last edited by Vinda; 26-11-2012 at 09:58 AM. |
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26-11-2012, 10:04 AM
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EDIT: Ovde smo pricali o Blackbird studio C: http://www.rumski.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42755 http://www.rumski.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19211
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26-11-2012, 11:41 AM
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Re: Skyline
Aha, znaci oni su u dizajnu tog studia sledili to staro uputstvo da ne bi smelo da se ide ispod 2.5cm. Extra, to mi pomaze dosta, ako su oni tako odradili, znaci da je tako najbolje i da ispod toga stvarno ne treba ici!
Nadjoh na jednom drugom (stranom) forumu boggyjev post u kome je rekao da on ignorise ogranicenje od 25mm, i da nikada ne ide ispod 18mm. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7057523-post11.html http://www.gearslutz.com/board/7060400-post16.html |
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