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Old 26-01-2009, 03:35 AM   #11
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FW tera 24 kanala (provereno) a ovi iz A&H kazu 26 (nisam probao )
izbor ti je suzen na A&H iz serije R ,Mackie Onyx ili ona nova Yamaha
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Old 26-01-2009, 03:38 AM   #12
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glupost.. sad videh taj deo o slanju preko usba..
valjda je 8 kanala tu maksimum? znam po ff800.. a i ne znam nishta da ide preko 8 kanala..
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ako ima FW in/out na externoj karti mozes da vezes 3 uredjaja kao na primeru Presonusa studio ili firepodu
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Old 26-01-2009, 03:43 AM   #13
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ako ima FW in/out na externoj karti mozes da vezes 3 uredjaja kao na primeru Presonusa studio ili firepodu

ee da da da.. jes jes.. zaboravih na to.. ff800 ima fw400 kabl i prikljuchak i fw 800 prikljuchak na sebi..

bravo.. zaboravio sam..


btw, chuo sam da su onyxovi preampi transparentni do jajca.. mada se bojim da sam loshe chuo..

mada opet, realno.. toliko stvari hocu da uzmem i ne znam odakle da krenem. tako je bilo uvek, tako izgleda da ce biti i za 20 godina kad budem pretrpao studio sa opremom. (mada i sad sam realno)

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edit: za onyx mora da se uzme posebno fw i/o kartica.. smarachi..
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Old 26-01-2009, 03:48 AM   #14
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btw, chuo sam da su onyxovi preampi transparentni do jajca.. mada se bojim da sam loshe chuo..
edit: za onyx mora da se uzme posebno fw i/o kartica.. smarachi..
transparentni ???
ako volis malo tvrdji sound, izmedju Onyxa i A&H biraj Onyx.

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Old 26-01-2009, 03:51 AM   #15
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tvrdji?

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btw, mogli bi da predjemo na pp da ne smaramo forum
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Old 26-01-2009, 10:30 AM   #16
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Ljudi, propusna moc USB 2 standarda je okolo 400mb/sec, kakva 2 kanala?
govorim samo za taj mixer, posto smo ih vec prodavali.
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Old 26-01-2009, 11:24 AM   #17
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jes vala, sale, pitaš me kolko kanala , ja kažem 8 do 10, šta ti nije jasno? Nisam koristio taj ZED thing, nego sa kompa koristio Passport kao HDD na koji snimam, i radilo je najnormalnije. Dakle, to je odgovor od samom USB standardu (mislim da je tačna cifra 480mBit po sekundi). I da, Onyx FW snima 16ch na komp i to bogami radi i na 88.2khz samplerateu, svih 16ch na komp i 2 nazad (snimao ceo sešn tako u utorak). e da, FF800 slika 10 kanala in i 10 out sa sve 192khz samplerateom, bez veće frke. A na manjim samplerateovima on šalje preko 20 nešto kanala ako koristiš i ADAT input-outpute.

Mackie Onyx preampi rade skroz ok za te pare, čak ni ta konverzija nije uopšte hrđava. Jedina mana je upravo routing (nepostojeći), i nedostatak bilo kakvih digitalnih input-outputa što te tera da koristiš njega kao jedini ASIO, a mega veliko drkanje je to što vraća samo 2 kanala (master) sa kompa na mixer u slušanje, pa i ti i bubnjar npr imate identičan mix u slušanju (ukoliko čovek oće da čuje klik iz nuenda ili neki pilot kanal). Postaje prava zavrzlama organizovati valjan monitoring u tim uslovima.
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Old 26-01-2009, 02:36 PM   #18
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eh da.. zaboravio sam chime s snimao sori.. nisam video da si pomenuo..

nishta, ipak cu da uzmem ff800 kad pokupim neku lovu.. i necu se pravim pametan previshe.. nabudzicu shto vishe dobrih preampa i to je to..

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Old 26-01-2009, 04:57 PM   #19
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Nemojte ljudi da me pravite budalom, mislim na A&H ZED R16, taj SIGURNO salje i prima 16 kanala, a Alesis i FW i USB takodje moze 16 in/out, mislim da se zove multimix 16 USB, sta vam tesko da "skocite" i pogledate...Valjda toliko razumem Engleski posle tolikih godina citanja
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Old 26-01-2009, 05:10 PM   #20
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[sto pricate o USB kad ima FireWire?

The ZED-R16 can be employed as a standard analogue mixer while recording multi-track via FireWire or ADAT, a traditional inline mixer recording with send and return per channel via FireWire, or as a MIDI controller via switchable channel faders. It features 16 mono inputs, 2 stereo inputs, a high quality dual mic pre-amp, 4-band fully-parametric EQ, 4 auxes, a stereo bus, 2 stereo returns, and 18+18 FireWire I/O and 8+8 ADAT I/O.

For studio work, there are control room speaker outputs, two separate artist monitor feeds, two analogue recording outputs in addition to the digital interface, and a dedicated internal condenser talkback mic. Each channel has its own independent soundcard channel, so instruments can be recorded simultaneously (pre or post EQ) into the sequencer separately. To minimise clock jitter and provide synchronicity between the ZED-R16 and other devices, the mixer is equipped with the professional JetPLL? digital audio chipset.

ZED-R16 is equipped with a host of MIDI control options. As well as the 4 dedicated MIDI faders, 12 rotary controllers, 12 switches, and 5 dedicated transport switches, all channel faders can also be switched to become MIDI faders. As with all models in the ZED range, the ZED-R16 is also bundled with Cakewalk?s SONAR LE music production software. In addition to multi-track recording, the ZED-R16 allows mixing down in analogue, then recording back into the computer in digital.
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