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Old 27-09-2007, 12:01 PM   #31
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pa i nije toliko potrebna native verzija cambridge-a , waves ssl i sonnox i ne treba ti nista vise tj da lutas sa eq compresorima i sl. mada mozda digi-ev transient designer bi dobro dosao mada transmod super radi

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druze poblesavio si , sve radi u fullu , da ne kazem identicno kao i dsp ...
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Old 27-09-2007, 12:29 PM   #32
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pa i nije toliko potrebna native verzija cambridge-a , waves ssl i sonnox i ne treba ti nista vise tj da lutas sa eq compresorima i sl. mada mozda digi-ev transient designer bi dobro dosao mada transmod super radi

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druze poblesavio si , sve radi u fullu , da ne kazem identicno kao i dsp ...
Vidis, native verzija Sonnox-a nije napravljena zato da bi se crackovala, a uveren sam da pri dizajniranju plug-ova niko ne uzima u obzir "sta je neophodno ljudima koji koriste ISKLJUCIVO piratski softvare", vec neke druge parametre.

Kada niko ne bi kupio plug-ove, ne bi se ni pravili.

Dakle ako podjemo od gotovo neverovatne, drske i nadasve bezobrazne pretpostavke da Sonnox ipak misli pre svega na svoje legalne korisnike, reklo bi se da su uradili pravu stvar i olaksanje ljudima koji koriste PowerCore:

"Clicking on this icon brings up a new menu, one that allows you to set which mode you want the plugin to run in, your desired mode of operation: either “Use PowerCore hardware if it is available”, or “Use Native DSP”. If you select Native mode, this instance of this plugin will run in Native mode from this moment forward. If you select Powercore mode, this instance of this plugin will use powercore hardware if it is available, or it will automatically switch to native mode if there is no Powercore hardware available, or if there is a problem while loading onto Powercore (such as there are no more hardware resources left, or there is a problem with the fire-wire connection)."

Svaka cast i kamo srece da i UAD uradi tako nesto i to ne samo za ovde pomenuti Cambridge, vec za sve pluggove. Lepo bi bilo da ima sama karta sluzi za delimicno rasterecenje CPU-a, a da plug-ovima dozvole da koriste CPU, kada je DSP preopterecen... kao sto je to Sonnox uradio... automatsko prebacivanje na native.
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Old 27-09-2007, 12:34 PM   #33
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pa i nije toliko potrebna native verzija cambridge-a , waves ssl i sonnox i ne treba ti nista vise tj da lutas sa eq compresorima i sl. mada mozda digi-ev transient designer bi dobro dosao mada transmod super radi

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druze poblesavio si , sve radi u fullu , da ne kazem identicno kao i dsp ...
Ma kapiram ja da sve radi u full-u, nego sam se navikao na Waves SSL EQ, SSL Channel strip, GCO, i L3 i sad sve sto drugacije zvuci me buni...Trebace mi vremena da se naviknem na Sonnox...
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Old 27-09-2007, 12:48 PM   #34
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Svaka cast i kamo srece da i UAD uradi tako nesto i to ne samo za ovde pomenuti Cambridge, vec za sve pluggove. Lepo bi bilo da ima sama karta sluzi za delimicno rasterecenje CPU-a, a da plug-ovima dozvole da koriste CPU, kada je DSP preopterecen... kao sto je to Sonnox uradio... automatsko prebacivanje na native.
Ne verujem da ce to oni uraditi. Pre bih rekao da su bas oni provalili zastitu da skenjaju PoCo! Nikad se ne zna ko su pravi kriminalci!
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Old 27-09-2007, 01:11 PM   #35
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Ne verujem da ce to oni uraditi. Pre bih rekao da su bas oni provalili zastitu da skenjaju PoCo! Nikad se ne zna ko su pravi kriminalci!
Ne verujem da bi Universal Audio bavio crackovima... a to da nece ovako odraditi, u to sam i ja siguran iz jednog prostog razloga... mnogo se vise misli na uzimanje para i sto manja ulaganja, nego na potrebe korisnika. Ovo zahteva ozbiljan rad i programersku adaptaciju svih plugova, a to zahteva rad i ulaganja i to je ono sto im se ne svidja u toj prichi.
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Old 27-09-2007, 01:24 PM   #36
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mislim da će POCO iz cele priče imati korist..čisto sumnjam da će ih ovo nešto oštetiti..
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Old 27-09-2007, 06:44 PM   #37
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Vidis, native verzija Sonnox-a nije napravljena zato da bi se crackovala, a uveren sam da pri dizajniranju plug-ova niko ne uzima u obzir "sta je neophodno ljudima koji koriste ISKLJUCIVO piratski softvare", vec neke druge parametre.

Kada niko ne bi kupio plug-ove, ne bi se ni pravili.

Dakle ako podjemo od gotovo neverovatne, drske i nadasve bezobrazne pretpostavke da Sonnox ipak misli pre svega na svoje legalne korisnike, reklo bi se da su uradili pravu stvar i olaksanje ljudima koji koriste PowerCore:

"Clicking on this icon brings up a new menu, one that allows you to set which mode you want the plugin to run in, your desired mode of operation: either ?Use PowerCore hardware if it is available?, or ?Use Native DSP?. If you select Native mode, this instance of this plugin will run in Native mode from this moment forward. If you select Powercore mode, this instance of this plugin will use powercore hardware if it is available, or it will automatically switch to native mode if there is no Powercore hardware available, or if there is a problem while loading onto Powercore (such as there are no more hardware resources left, or there is a problem with the fire-wire connection)."

Svaka cast i kamo srece da i UAD uradi tako nesto i to ne samo za ovde pomenuti Cambridge, vec za sve pluggove. Lepo bi bilo da ima sama karta sluzi za delimicno rasterecenje CPU-a, a da plug-ovima dozvole da koriste CPU, kada je DSP preopterecen... kao sto je to Sonnox uradio... automatsko prebacivanje na native.
ok deki sta cemo sa vecinom korisnika krekovanog/legalnog softvera koji znaju mogucnosti ovih paketa a nemaju novaca za powercore/uad ??? ovo je samo "mamac" za prelazak na dsp karte , sto se mene tice ovim paketom sam "zavrsio potragu " za nekim "kopijama" inlatora i sl.

neve i slicne emulacije nisam toliko isprobao da bi sad dao neki sud o njima , vss3 je itekako potreban sony-ev reverb je korak iznad cuvenog r1 tj nesto izmedju njega i altiverba , kao sto rekox ovo je samo mamac da se kupe dsp karte o kojima posle kupovine monitora mogu da razmisljam
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Old 28-09-2007, 01:52 AM   #38
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Hmmm...
Drugari, jeste li sigurni da "native" i "powercore" verzije zvuce isto (mislim na EQ)?

Na dva kanala sam stavio isti audio fajl (vokal).
Na jednom kanalu "native" Oxford EQ, na drugom "powercore" Oxford EQ i onda A/B...
Sa identicnim settingom (HF shelf, 8 kHz, 5 dB boost) nisu mi zvucali isto...
Isto su zvucali tek kad sam na "native" verziji ukljucio i HMF i na njemu secnuo otprilike pola decibela, veoma usko, nesto blizu 6 kHz (malcice nize)...
Kao da imaju drugaciji "slope"? Ili sam "zreo za penziju"?
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Old 28-09-2007, 06:37 AM   #39
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Nije mi jasno dali sonnox plug-inovi mogu raditi bez dsp karte ili su napravljeni tako kad je dsp u potpunosti iskori?ten prelazi na procesor kompjutera ?
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Nije mi jasno dali sonnox plug-inovi mogu raditi bez dsp karte
Da i to samo native verzije.

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...ili su napravljeni tako kad je dsp u potpunosti iskori?ten prelazi na procesor kompjutera ?
Nema prelaska...
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