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Old 09-05-2006, 09:36 AM   #1
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Izotop bih osobno izbjegao... Osim shto izgleda hi-tech, i ima brdo preseta, pojedinachno gledano alati su dosta loshi. Podsjecha me na sony "all-in-one" linije koje izgledaju spacey i ne vrijede ni klinca.

PSP MasterComp ima izvrsnu kompresiju, pogotovo kada se koristi sa soft knee kompresijom! Jedino mi se chini da je prilagodjen ne-elektronskoj glazbi, jer kod komprimiranja vech glasnih traka ne uspjeva dovoljno "stisnuti" sound.

R-Comp od Waves-a je izvrstan uprvo tamo gdje PSP MasterComp ima slabost!

L3 je odlichan maximizer/limiter, ali zahtjeva odlichan mix. U protivnom strashno naglasi propuste u levelingu i kompresiji, ili "udavi" kompletan mix.

BBE sonic maximizer je dobra sprava. Kvalitetna alternativa je i Spectralive 2.

PSP-ov paket "MIX PACK" je doslovce revolucija. Psihoakustichni pristup obradi zvuka za one malo bolje potkovane i s malo debljim zhivcima Trebel mix nudi "tranzient design" i saturaciju tipa "aphex aural exciter". Mix bass je nenadjebiv kompresor za bas spektar (obavezno prochitati manual). Mix saturator i mix pressor su izvrsne simulacije valve i tape saturacija, IMO daleko bolja od Izotop-a.

Redifined audiometric EQ je apsolutni prvak medju EQ-ima.

PSP MasterEQ je takodjer vrhunska sprava.

eto... ovo bi bili trenutno top VST alati za mastering i sound design
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:41 AM   #2
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A sta mislis za URS MIX EQ u paru sa PSP Mastering Compressorom i TimeWorks Mastering Compressorom?
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Old 10-05-2006, 08:43 AM   #3
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Waves eq-clone ima par preseta koji stvarno znaju da osveze snimak.Posebno oni koji dizu od 2kila pa na gore zvuce fenomenalno zdravo.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:47 AM   #4
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A sta mislis za URS MIX EQ u paru sa PSP Mastering Compressorom i TimeWorks Mastering Compressorom?
TimeWork MasterComp nisam pretjerano koristio pa ne znam. URS mi djeluje nekako aljkavo. Chuo sam ih na ProToolsima i odlichni su, ali imam dojam da PC varijanta osim imena ne nudi bog zna kakve kvalitete. Osim toga, ja preferiram precizne EQ-e na koima mogu podeshavat s "milimetarskom" preciznoshchu, a takvih je malo. Osim PSP-a precizan je i Redefined Audiometric EQ, Waves Linear Broadband i Linear Lowband, svaki na svoj nachin.
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Izotop bih osobno izbjegao... Osim shto izgleda hi-tech, i ima brdo preseta, pojedinachno gledano alati su dosta loshi.
Mislim da maaaalko gresis , isprva sam mislio da je izotope losh , ali kad naucis spravu , po meni samo MD3 moze da da lepse rezultate ( necu da kazem nenadjebiv , jer je ovo licni stav )



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R-Comp od Waves-a je izvrstan uprvo tamo gdje PSP MasterComp ima slabost!
Kako sam bio sretan kad sam pobegao od r compa ....... , mozda je agresivan za elektroniku , ali je pregrub i grainy za kvalitetniju produkciju , a opet je tu PSP wv , koji je za klasu ispred r compa , pa boga mi i PSP mix packa , koji mu dodje oguljena verzija ( kad se radi o compresorima ) a licno mi je pseudo stereo i stereo pack spasao guzicu vise puta



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Redifined audiometric EQ je apsolutni prvak medju EQ-ima.
.... algorithmix ???

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eto... ovo bi bili trenutno top VST alati za mastering i sound design


... po tvom ukusu ???



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jel koristi ovde neko elemental audio Equium? Ja sam se totalno navukao..
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jel koristi ovde neko elemental audio Equium? Ja sam se totalno navukao..
Pristojan EQ s prilichno "trapavim" kontrolama (nervira me nemoguchnost upisivanja vrijednosti tastaturom). Waves Q-10 je odlichna zamjena, a Refined Audiometrics PLPar EQ (za jak procesor) ili Refined Audiometrics PLPar EQ X (za slabije procesore) je idealna zamjena. Naravno, ovo je samo moe mishljenje.
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jel koristi ovde neko elemental audio Equium? Ja sam se totalno navukao..
Ja ..... na preporuku tonca Justina Tmberlake a ....... koji ga zloupotrebljava , meni se jako dopada za skidanje , vec kod dodavanja je malo frka ...... ali moj omiljen za ciscenje fr ....


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ne znam za vas, ali meni nuendo dozvoljava da u equiumu upisujem rucno brojeve.. cesto se zeznem pa na stereo grupi otvorim single eq, i uradim posao do jaja, al na jednom kanalu pa onda rucno prepisem u stereo verziju..
Meni se kod njega upravo interface i svidja, sto preko 400 raznih gluposti koje sam vec popalio od parametara, mogu da upalim 401vu da spasem stvar.. sad mi je URS potpuno glomazan spram equiuma.. svidjaju mi se narocito low i high pass filteri, i, vidis, inace equalizaciju radim sa minimalnom kolicinom dodavanja, uglavnom secem..
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Eqium zaista lepo oduzima... kao ziletom...
Opet, jos jedna stvar na koju mi je Maximilijan skrenuo paznju... inace ga ne bih ni primetio u shumi EQ-a...

Ima Elemental Audio zaista lepe plugove...

hi-pass mu je odlican, low-pass mi se ne svidja... kao sto mi se ne svidja ni dodavanje na njemu... ali oduzimanje... mrak...
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