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Old 02-07-2012, 02:48 PM   #11
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Bilo bi najbolje kad bi bilo prostora između dvoje vrata,ali mi je TANAK ZID
Sa tim si sam odgovorio na problem!!! A to je da neće? moćI IZOLIRATI BASS FREKVENCIJE, tj. da će se iste ćut, stavio ti blendirana vrata ili ne ... U tvom slučaju bi onda vjerojatno preporučio da ide? na pvc vrata ...
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:38 PM   #12
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PVC če propu?tati i dosta vi?e srednje, zato barem masivna drvena vrata.
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:03 AM   #13
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Mozda dupla obicna ta sto imas, samo jos jedna da stavis?
Ma mozes i deset krila da dodas, ali ako ni jedno ne dihtuje po celom obimu, dzaba. To je slaba karika sobnih vrata, bez obzira koliko da su teska i masivna.

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Sa tim si sam odgovorio na problem!!! A to je da nećeš moćI IZOLIRATI BASS FREKVENCIJE, tj. da će se iste ćut, stavio ti blendirana vrata ili ne ... U tvom slučaju bi onda vjerojatno preporučio da ideš na pvc vrata ...
Ako je zid od cigle, obezbedice neku zvucnu izolaciju bolju nego obicna sobna vrata, makar taj zid bio zidan ciglom "na kant". Takodje, cak ni protivprovalna vrata nemaju tezinu kao tanki cigleni zid iste povrsine, te su i dalje ta vrata najslabija karika u ukupnoj zvucnoj izolaciji.

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PVC če propuštati i dosta više srednje, zato barem masivna drvena vrata.
Protivprovalna vrata su teska ali i DIHTUJU po celom svom obimu koji je DRUGI potreban uslov za zvucnu izolaciju (velika masa i dihtovanje po celom obimu). Od komercijalno dostupnih OBICNIH vrata (ne specijalno pravljenih za zvucnu izolaciju) samo balkonska i protivprovalna vrata mogu imati osobine blizu opisanih, bez preteranih modifikacija... koje bi skupo kostale.
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Jeste bez dihtovanja je sve bez veze.
Mogu se i masivna drvena "opremiti" sa dosta dobrim dihtovanjem.
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Jeste bez dihtovanja je sve bez veze.
Mogu se i masivna drvena "opremiti" sa dosta dobrim dihtovanjem.
Ma znam da sve moze, pricali smo o "najekonomicnijem resenju".
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Ma znam da sve moze, pricali smo o "najekonomicnijem resenju".
Jedini "problem" sa tvojim (inače savr?eno racionalnim) predlogom je to ?to se vrata koja si pomenuo uop?te nazivaju "protivprovalnim". Kad bi ih neko u katalogu nazvao "vrata sa zvučnom izolacijom" (?to bi takođe bila istina) MarkoX50 bi ih verovatno odmah kupio.

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Jedini "problem" sa tvojim (inače savršeno racionalnim) predlogom je to što se vrata koja si pomenuo uopšte nazivaju "protivprovalnim". Kad bi ih neko u katalogu nazvao "vrata sa zvučnom izolacijom" (što bi takođe bila istina) MarkoX50 bi ih verovatno odmah kupio.
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Ne bi... jer covek nema "pravi" studio... a ni spavaca soba mu bas nije kao kod ostalih... a neko kada bira izmedju dve stvari, prakticno izabere trecu koja se zove "dilema", i bude vrlo entuzijastican i tvrdoglavo ne odustaje od nje... pa kad mi nagnemo da ostane kako jeste (stara i suplja vrata), onda je velika buka... a kada "navalimo" da sredimo buku (u ozbiljnijoj meri), onda su protivprovalna vrata (kao) "neprikladna"...

EDIT: Inace, PVC BALKONSKA vrata bi mogla, ali sa debelim i teskim staklom... ne znam koliko je to bezbedno....
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Dihtovanjem? Vakuum-om dvaju stakla u vratima?
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