Sprema se novi zakon u svetu (!!)

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by MD

I onda će se pronaći način kao zaobići sve to i opet sve ispočetka...

Pa dobro, hoće, imaš pravo, ali sve je bolje od ovoga gdje se ništa ne poduzima i ne naplaćuje.


Po meni, jednom regulativom telekoma bi se puno toga riješilo.

Prisiliti telekome da moraju naplaćivati sadržaj, od kojeg dio naravno ide njima, i da vidiš.

Ajd da vidim kako će se to netko spojiti na internet a da telekom ne zna , ili da telekom ne zna tko sa koje stranice i što upravo skida.

[vakatt]

Originally Posted by Surfer

Ajd da vidim kako će se to netko spojiti na internet a da telekom ne zna , ili da telekom ne zna tko sa koje stranice i što upravo skida.

Ovo je moguće , i ne moraš biti haker da bi to odradio.

Nego ONTOPIC , ajmo na momenat da zamislimo tu post-apokaliptičnu planetu - gdje su vlasti uspjele da uguše slobodu i na Internetu, šta misliš dal bi neki muzičari prodavali manje ili više ploča??

[DaBear]

Pa naravno da je resenje u provajderima interneta...oni imaju SVE podatke kod njih !! Problem je sto njima (trenutno) ne ide u prilog da "cinkare" one koji skidaju...
Ministry Of Sound je pokusao da dobije spisak svih IP adresa od British Telecom-a preko suda, ali je BT rekao da oni brisu sve podatke posle 7 dana (hehehe)

Ali ako im neki Evropski sud ili koji vec naredi, onda ce morati...evo sta se u Holandiji desava...hoce da zakonom proglase upload i download muzike i filmova kao ilegalno delo..

07:51 | Tuesday April 12, 2011
By Eamonn Forde
The Dutch Government is considering a change in the law that would see downloading from P2Ps classified as an illegal act for the first time.

Currently Dutch consumers are allowed to copy music and movies if it for personal use but only the uploading of such content to P2P networks or torrent sites is illegal.

Ars Technica reports, ?Downloading unauthorized music and movies would become illegal under the new plan, but in return, citizens get some new benefits: no more levies on MP3 players and blank CDs, a new 'fair use right', and a pledge that the government won't pursue 'criminalization' of end users.?

The proposed legislative changes were outlined by justice and security minister Fred Teeven.

He stated, however, that any new measures would not include a 'three strikes' policy to disconnect persistent infringers. The Government plans to block access to services that exist outside its borders, using current Dutch law to tackle any P2P or torrent sites based in the country.

The moves have been welcomed by Dutch anti-piracy body BREIN.

Teeven's proposals also include making collection societies more accountable to artists and ensuring that single European licences for digital services easier to secure compared to the current country-by-country licensing model.

[vakatt]

Hoce li mozda neko da zabrani pozajmljivanje ploca?? U zavisnosti od ugla posmatranja to je isto kao i upload albuma na neki sajt

[Matoree]

Originally Posted by DaBear

Pa naravno da je resenje u provajderima interneta...oni imaju SVE podatke kod njih !! Problem je sto njima (trenutno) ne ide u prilog da "cinkare" one koji skidaju...
Ministry Of Sound je pokusao da dobije spisak svih IP adresa od British Telecom-a preko suda, ali je BT rekao da oni brisu sve podatke posle 7 dana (hehehe)

Ali ako im neki Evropski sud ili koji vec naredi, onda ce morati...evo sta se u Holandiji desava...hoce da zakonom proglase upload i download muzike i filmova kao ilegalno delo..

Ne brisu oni podatke zato sto hoce, nego zato sto nemaju resursa.. Ako bilo sta od ovih gluposti bude uvedeno, provajderi ce snositi ogromne troskove, a kao sto sam vec rekao software koji bi detectovao warez u protoku bi se jako lako zavarao...


p.s. Surfer je trol najgori. Preporuka za ban

[DaBear]

KRENULO JE...sad ce sve brze i brze...

The New Zealand government's anti-piracy proposals have moved into law after having been rushed through the final stages.

The Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Bill, particularly Section 92A, has caused immense controversy in the country but has now cleared the third and final stage ahead of its implementation.

Section 92A originally placed the onus on ISPs to disconnect repeat infringers but this met with fierce opposition when it was mooted two years ago. This mean it had to be redrafted by the commerce select committee.

The New Zealand Herald reports, ?While the ability for copyright holders to apply to have repeat offenders disconnected remains in the legislation, it will not come into effect unless after two years it is shown that other less severe sanctions are ineffective.?

ISPs will have to send warning letters to those suspected of infringement. They can be disconnected for up to six months and could face penalties of up to $15k (?7k).

[Surfer]

Originally Posted by DaBear

KRENULO JE...sad ce sve brze i brze...

The New Zealand government's anti-piracy proposals have moved into law after having been rushed through the final stages.

The Copyright (Infringing File Sharing) Amendment Bill, particularly Section 92A, has caused immense controversy in the country but has now cleared the third and final stage ahead of its implementation.

Section 92A originally placed the onus on ISPs to disconnect repeat infringers but this met with fierce opposition when it was mooted two years ago. This mean it had to be redrafted by the commerce select committee.

The New Zealand Herald reports, “While the ability for copyright holders to apply to have repeat offenders disconnected remains in the legislation, it will not come into effect unless after two years it is shown that other less severe sanctions are ineffective.”

ISPs will have to send warning letters to those suspected of infringement. They can be disconnected for up to six months and could face penalties of up to $15k (?7k).

Jesam vam rekao na onoj drugoj temi prije par mjeseci da će se to riješiti i da je samo pitanje vremena i volje, hehe.
Pa su me neki pljuvali, da to neće ići i da nije u redu, demokracija, ljudska prava i slično...

Ma šta nije u redu?
Zatvoriš pristup internetu za 2000 ljudi koji su ilegalno skidali i napraviš primjer od njih i da vidiš.
Ne bi se više usudili Google otvoriti


11.01.2011.

Originally Posted by Surfer

To se itekako može zaustaviti i to jednim paketom zakona koji usvoje US i EU. Samo izdaš jednu naredbu internet providerima i čiča miča gotova je priča.

[boggy]

Originally Posted by Surfer

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Ne bi se vi?e usudili Google otvoriti
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Sjajan rezultat. I onda ce svi oni potrcati u prodavnicu da kupe muziku.

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