Go Back   Rumski Forum > Studijska tehnika i instrumenti > Audio Software

Audio Software VST, DX, AU.... plug-in instrumenti i efekti, modularni sintovi i dizajn modularne sinteze, semplovanje, semplovi i sample libraries diskusije, koje sekvencere, editore, plug-inse koristite. Da li je bolji Sonar ili Cubase? Sound Forge ili WaveLab?..

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13-02-2009, 07:37 PM   #21
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

jedino ako je panning law drugaciji..
lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 07:44 PM   #22
LACKY
Pro Member
 
LACKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,068
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

Svi kanali su u sredini, tako da to nebi trebalo da utice, on utice kada panujes total L ili R!
LACKY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:03 PM   #23
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

objasnio sam ti na chatu, ali evo i za ostale.

po defaultu nuendo koristi -3dB panning law, na sredini je -3, na krajevima 0 dB.
logic koristi -3dB compensated, na sredini je 0, na krajevima +3 dB.

sto je u sustini isto, samo se manifestuje tisim renderom u nuendu, sto sam kompenzovao normalizacijom peak nivoa.

obratite paznju skroz desno na grafik, nuendo radi resampling mnogo bolje od abletona, ali ne toliko dobro kao logic, uz to je spektar malo otvoreniji u visokim frekvencijama.

lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:11 PM   #24
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

evo zumirane su niske frekvencije, gde se primecuje razlika na odredjenim delovima.
ovaj deo nije toliko precizan zbog normalizacije nuendo fajla koju sam naknadno radio.

lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:18 PM   #25
LACKY
Pro Member
 
LACKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,068
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

Pazi generalno je ovaj test malo sasav, jer u praksi se uglavnom radi dowsempling, a upsemling?
Obicno miksamo na 96 ili 88 pa resemplujemo na 44.1. A tesko da cemo mihati na 44.1 pa dizati na 96 ili neznam sta vec.
Ali pokazuje da je Logicov plug za upsemling za sada najbolji, a ajde okaci i 44.1 sesije, da vidimo kako izgleda bez promene semling raea.

Last edited by LACKY; 13-02-2009 at 08:21 PM.
LACKY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:19 PM   #26
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

logic vs samplitude, nisam radio normalizaciju.

lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:21 PM   #27
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

Quote:
Originally Posted by LACKY View Post
Pazi generalno je ovaj test malo sasav, jer u praksi se uglavnom radi dowsempling, a upsemling?
pa nije sasav ako eksportujes/renderujes na veci sample rate.
lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:26 PM   #28
LACKY
Pro Member
 
LACKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,068
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

Ma da ali ja dosada u zivotu nikada za tim nisam imao potrebu, uvek je bilo obrnuto, da resmplujem na nize.
A Samplitude je vec druga prica.
Ima onaj tread na forumu, gde je link za forum gde su ovi testovi odradjeni po vise aspekata.
Ovo je aspekt samo Lowpas filtera.
Mislim kada pricamo o konverziji.

Last edited by LACKY; 13-02-2009 at 08:29 PM.
LACKY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:26 PM   #29
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

evo i razlike na 44.1/16, nuendo sabira malo svetlije.

lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-02-2009, 08:30 PM   #30
lesha
Vibrator
 
lesha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Novi Sad
Posts: 6,484
Default Re: Sabiranje - Ableton Live 7 vs Logic Pro 8

na 44.1/16 izmedju logica i samplitude razlike skoro da nema

lesha is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
ableton, apple, live, logic, resampling, sabiranje, summing, test


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What's new in Ableton Live 8 Mika Technika Audio Software 11 17-01-2009 01:30 AM
:: Ableton Live 5 :: lesha Audio Software 9 28-07-2005 02:54 AM
Ableton Live 4 Eon Audio Software 17 15-02-2005 04:07 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:30 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.12 by vBS
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors