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Old 22-04-2007, 12:06 PM   #1
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Default Re: Metallica - St. Anger, vase misljenje, sta je bre ovo???

Ako ste gledali video ''Some kind of monster'' mogli ste da vidite da je metalika bila pred raspadom i da su dosli da snimaju album bez ikakve ideje. Moje misljenje je da se to tako ne radi, jer nije thrash metal isto sto i dzez, ipak treba imati neku osnovu pre ulaska u studio, pa je u studiju mozda doraditi ili promeniti. Zato mi i album zvuci bezlicno, kao ravna linija, vidi se da je radjen na silu. Sto se produkcije tice ima tu nekog smeka, ali dzaba produkcije kada stvari nisu bolje. Ja ih uopste ne krivim jer se radi o grupi koja je vise od deset godina diktirala tempo u heavy metalu, rusila sve granice, pa je normalno da se ideje iscrpe. Njihovu muziku priznajem do albuma ''Black'', a ''Justice'' mi je vrh u produkcijskom smislu. Mislim da im promena producenta nece puno pomoci jer nije problem u produkciji nego u njima, i mislim da bi trebali da se vrate korenima, pogotovo James svom izvornom pevanju.
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Old 22-04-2007, 03:13 PM   #2
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meni je album sranje, ali st. anger me odusevila prvi put kada sam je cuo. bas taj dobos mi je zapeo za uho. inace preferiram plitke dobose (korn-life
is peachy mi je plafon sto se tice bubnjeva), a na st. anger mi je posebno poseban.
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Old 22-04-2007, 03:40 PM   #3
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"...And Justice For All" jeste muzički vrhunac Alkoholike, ali je bas tu sahranjen "mafijaškom sahranom", oklop od betona i porinuće u najdublje dubine Tihog okeana - produkcijski, mogli su mnogo bolje.
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Old 23-04-2007, 10:15 PM   #4
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"...And Justice For All" jeste muzički vrhunac Alkoholike, ali je bas tu sahranjen "mafija?kom sahranom", oklop od betona i porinuće u najdublje dubine Tihog okeana - produkcijski, mogli su mnogo bolje.
U kom smislu bolje?
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Old 23-04-2007, 11:10 PM   #5
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U smislu da na "...And Justice For All" ne sahrane bas "mafijaškom sahranom".
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Old 24-04-2007, 06:25 PM   #6
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Ne kontam sta hoces da kazes. Verovatno imas neke argumente, bas me interesuje zbog toga sto taj album,bar meni ima nekako najjaci smek. Posto sam imao tu plocu, mogu da kazem da je od omota, preko pesama, do produkcije meni delovao kao jedna celina, iako je to moje licno misljenje. Ajde baci neki komentar pa me razuveri.
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Pa nisam samo ja to primetio, članovi pomenutog benda se žale na to na sva usta već godinama. Najširi komentar na tu temu a da ga ja znam - nisam pravi fan, fanovi idu u sitna crevca na tu temu - je u filmu "When Metallica Ruled The World". Tu imaš natenane ispričanu priču: kako bas, zašto bas, zašto ne više basa... To je toliko prežvakana činjenica (i to sa pravom) da su morali da je spomenu čak i na Wikipediji:

"...the album's production almost completely lacks identifiable bass guitar. The standard explanation for this combines Newsted's absence from the mixing sessions (where he might have asserted his opinion) and the lingering issue of his "newness" within the band..."

"...they wish that they could re-mix the entire album because the drums and guitar overpower the bass completely. Some believe this is because Jason Newsted was new to the band and they wanted to frustrate him, though many, including Newsted himself, have stated this is due to the bass lines copying the rhythm guitar parts too closely."

"This (To Live Is To Die) is one of the few (if not the only) tracks off the album in which Jason Newsted's bass guitar is actually audible during the middle part of the song, during the melodic rhythm riffs and guitar solos. The bass was thought to have been turned all the way down in the album, and as a result the guitars sound very thin, and the drums sound a lot clickier, particulary Lars' bass drum."
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