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Old 22-07-2008, 10:14 PM   #31
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Sada te malo bolje rzumim.

Ja nemanm nista protiv absorbera takvog tipa. Ali sam kod toliko prijatelja i studija bio, I vazda mi je palo u oko (uho ) da mi je muklo i bass naj cesce nije bio definiran zapravo je falio.

Ja kada sam stavio helmholtz, Spasilo me!!

Dali ti pazis na reverbtime? to je meni nekako postalo naj vaznije. puno se bolje ima osjecaj za mix.
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Old 22-07-2008, 10:46 PM   #32
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Ako mo?e (ako dopu?ta kubika?a prostorije) dobar je RT60 za Control room između cca. 2-3.5ms ("Haas-ova zona").
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Old 22-07-2008, 11:01 PM   #33
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Ako mo?e (ako dopu?ta kubika?a prostorije) dobar je RT60 za Control room između cca. 2-3.5ms ("Haas-ova zona").
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Rt 60 Za Regie 0,25 - 0,30 ms

http://rumski.com/forum/attachment.p...1&d=1216764077

A Hassova Zona je izmedju 10ms-30ms (optimalna 17 ms) i tice se Erlay relection npm sida i plafona (ITD-Gap)
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Old 22-07-2008, 11:26 PM   #34
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Da, da, pa rekao sam cca. 2-3.5ms, a ti pominje? 10ms-30ms - optimalna 17 ms.
To je područje več vrlo finog tuninga prostorije, a sve te "cifre" su zadovoljive.
Je li tako?
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evo malo čitanja:
http://www.rane.com/par-h.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haas_effect
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Old 23-07-2008, 02:32 PM   #36
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pricamo o istom.

Na ovoj slici je objasnjen Haas efekat.

zanaci razlika u vremenu direktnog Zvuka i reflekcije. nebi tribali biti manja od 10 ms.
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Haas efekat nema baš točno zabetoniranu conu:
http://gain11.wordpress.com/2008/07/...edence-effect/
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http://gain11.wordpress.com/2008/07/...edence-effect/


ajmo necemo vise o haasu. on je vec davno umro.

Ja sam u svom Threadu ubiti to naveo sta ja mislim.
A mislim da ubiti pricamo o istom.

Ubiti samo sam stim tio reci sa Haas nema nista sa reverbtime Sobe po Rt 60.

Ali sada stvarno prestajemo sa Haasom, Ima mnogo drugi thema!!!!

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Da pričamo o istom.
Ali moje skromno mi?ljenje je, da je ipak odlična orijentacija koji RT60 da bi bio je "Haasovo razmi?ljanje", a to je negdje između 20-30ms.

Npr. referentna čuvena "Massenburgova soba" koja stoji u Blackbird kompleksu ima 25ms kroz glavni čujni frekvencijski spektar.
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Da pričamo o istom.
Ali moje skromno mi?ljenje je, da je ipak odlična orijentacija koji RT60 da bi bio je "Haasovo razmi?ljanje", a to je negdje između 20-30ms.

Npr. referentna čuvena "Massenburgova soba" koja stoji u Blackbird kompleksu ima 25ms kroz glavni čujni frekvencijski spektar.
Znam za tu sobu cito sam jedan clanak o noj. Ali je to vrhunac
Moje razmisljanje da bi i mi trebali paziti na ta.
Naravno u drugin dimenzijama.
Moje pitanje cisto rezultiralo iz toga da puno koristite Siroko pojasne apsorbere,
i tako da po nekom mom razmisljanju Rt 60 nemoze biti u redu na srednjin i visokin frekvencijama.
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