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Old 11-04-2006, 02:55 PM   #1
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:25 AM   #2
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Ako pricamo o M/S tehnici, onda je to procesor za tretiranje stereo mikrofonskog snimka(MS mikrofonska tehnika), pa mi nije naj jasnije Mastering plug. Sem ako ne pricamo o Pure sound recording-u!
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:30 AM   #3
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M/S je u osnovi tehnika snimanja s dva mikrofona. Ali u paketu sa snimanjem ide i dekodiranje tog signala u normalni stereo. E sad, ako uzmes cijeli miks (stereo snimku) i rastavis ga u M/S dobivas dva kanala koja nose mid i side. To krenes vrtit i sarafit i od gotovog miksa mozes svasta napraviti. Poslje naravno sve samo vratis opet u normalni stereo. Zato se danas M/S koristi cak vise u masteringu nego u samom snimanju (ako govorimo o pop muzici).
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:42 AM   #4
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Vrlo interesantno za tretiranje kompleksnog snimka! Znam da na Tc 6000 neki plugovi rade na toj bazi ali mi nije logicno( ako poznajes MS koji je u stvaru mic.tehnika poznata vec 50 godina).
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:54 AM   #5
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To je opasna fora upravo kod masteringa.
Pogotovo u slucajevima kada dobijas kotov fajl koji je neko smixao i kraj.
Tu mozes da napravis drasticane izmene i u domenu samog mixa, jer mozes da utices posebno na centar, a posebno na panorame.
Pa tako mozes da utegnes centar, a da ne diras po strani ili pak, ako ti je stereo slika "jadna" mozes da je iscistis, komprimujes, fazno rasiris...
Jedino nezgodno je to sto proporcionalno dobrom ucinku, mozes i da zajebes stvar
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:54 AM   #6
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Lepo izgleda ovaj novi CW plug... ali morao bi debelo da me uveri da radi bolje nego Waves M\S Matrix + normalni plugovi... za tu cenu.... ko zna... videcemo...

Meni to, iskreno, nije palo na pamet... takav pristup... Max mi je pokazao i mnogo mu hvala, ali... mislim da je primenljivo i da daje rezultate samo kada je los mix... barem meni... ma da valja uzeti u obzir da ja jos i ne umem tako da radim... radim, ali kao po jajima (kokosijim)

I to sam malo adaptirao svojim tripovima... uvezem pesmu u nintendo... turim M\S Matrix, izvezem odvojeno levi i desni (koji vise nisu levi i desni), vratim u Nuendo, odvojeno podesavam i kad zavrsim stavim M\S Matrix da bi mi to ponovo spojio i na kraju brickwall limiter...

Ma... onaj Max je resio da me nacisto iskvari...
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Old 12-04-2006, 01:18 AM   #7
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Ljudi, ovo je sjajna spravica!
Ja sam imao prilike da se igram par sati sa pluginom, verujte da sam zazalio sto ga nisam imao mnogo ranije, za neke mixeve na koje sam do tada bio ponosan
Menjanjem centralne slike/odnosno panarama (ma cak i samim preslusavanjem) mogu se dobiti nevidjeni rezultati za jako kratko vreme!
Pri svemu tome, spravica ima onaj tako zeljeni "sparkle" koji se i ocekuje od mastering alatke (ne znam da li mogu da vam opisem ono sto sam cuo i osetio)

U svakom slucaju, ja spremam pare
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:28 AM   #8
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Probaj da uradis ono sto je Deki napisao , ali menjaj kompresore i EQ po volji , vrati ms matrixom ...... mislim da ces dobiti jos bolje rezultate ..... a i spark koji je definitivno povezan pojacavanjem stereo slike .....


Javi utiske ......


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Daj pojasni malo ovo "a i spark koji je definitivno povezan pojacavanjem stereo slike ....."
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Old 12-04-2006, 02:38 AM   #10
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Pojacaj stereo signal i dobices vise visokih ..... koji se detektuju ka sparkle ...

isto se desava i pri faznom sirenju ili kompresovanju istih .....



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