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Old 22-11-2013, 03:18 PM   #1
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Old 22-11-2013, 04:30 PM   #2
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Old 22-11-2013, 05:31 PM   #3
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So instead I decided to keep my money in my wallet and put all my focus on something that would actually improve sound quality: improving myself. I worked on mic placement, gainstaging, better arranging, strategic use of EQ and compression, and constant referencing of pro mixes. All of these things have made major improvements in the final result of my recordings and mixes. No new gear necessary.
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Old 23-11-2013, 12:13 PM   #4
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mnogo je čak jednostavnije i od toga - ako neku razliku nisi u stanju da čuješ, nemoj to kupovati. Mene jebe što sam došavši do ozbiljnijeg monitoringa, počeo da čujem ama baš sve i svašta, a i malko se uši istrenirale za sve ove godine, pa me sad baš muči ekonomska nesvrsishodnost kupovine bolje opreme, a itekako čujem gde sam tanak
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Old 23-11-2013, 12:37 PM   #5
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Ja samo svoje iskustvo vezano za pomenuti 002r..... sa njega sam presao na RME ff800.... A/D razlika je bila tolika da su i musterije cule razlike u usnimku vokala (3 pesme sa albuma sa 002r, ostalo ff800), da sam morao ponovo na RME da snimam sve..... a danas mi i RME zvuci tek prihvatljivo
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Old 23-11-2013, 12:41 PM   #6
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same here, što se tiče RME
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Mene jebe što sam došavši do ozbiljnijeg monitoringa, počeo da čujem ama baš sve i svašta, a i malko se uši istrenirale za sve ove godine, pa me sad baš muči ekonomska nesvrsishodnost kupovine bolje opreme, a itekako čujem gde sam tanak
Hehe, sad ispade da su monitori smrtni neprijatelji konvertora Kad čuješ gde si tanak, lakše ti je da nateraš postojeću opremu da zvuči onako kako ti hoćeš. Da se nadovežem na ono što piše u članku, promena žica na gitari ponekad učini više nego promena konvertora.

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P.S. @OFF: Da li ti je palo na pamet da je možda pevač imao drugačiji delivery u prethodnoj turi snimanja?
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Old 23-11-2013, 12:47 PM   #8
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pa to mi je malko mač sa dve oštrice. istina je da ću moći više da izvučem iz postojećeg, ali sa mnogo više muke nego da mi je input zdraviji u startu. Sa lošijim monitorima sam manje morao da se cimam da bi sebe zadovoljio, ali mnogo više da bi snimci bili translatorniji.
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zato uloziti pare u monitoring (kutije i soba) a onda sve ostalo - po potrebi
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istina je da ću moći vi?e da izvučem iz postojećeg, ali sa mnogo vi?e muke nego da mi je input zdraviji u startu.
Čuj, vi?e si u poslu nego ja, a i u?i su ti u boljem stanju nego moje, ja ti sve verujem. Ali, da se ne lo?imo, razlika između dva različita tejka bubnja, basa, gitare, vokala ? svih onih stvari kojima se bavi? ? je mnogo veća od razlike između RME i Apogee konvertora.

Donekle sam u stanju da razumem insistiranje na skupoj konverziji kod onih koji se bave elektronskom muzikom sa puno hardverskih sintisajzera, trt-mrt. Ali ono čime se ti bavi? podrazumeva toliki faktor gre?ke i nestabilnosti samih izvođača i instrumenata, da je priča o gre?kama u konverziji skoro pa bespredmetna. Osim ako ne poredimo SB Live! i Lynx, naravno.

Hoću da ka?em da je verovatnije da sa prethodnim monitoringom nisi primećivao tolike razlike u postavci mikrofona i izvođenju, nego da nisi čuo razlike u konverziji.

Naravno, sve ovo pi?em sa pozicije fudbalera koji odavno nije u profesionalnoj ligi nego ponekad sa drugarima zakupi salu za mali fudbal. Ali i dok sam bio na terenu bilo mi je va?nije s kim igram nego da li su linije na terenu crtane krečom ili fluorescentnom farbom.

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