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Old 03-04-2005, 09:18 AM   #1
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Default Snimanje trube Bb - u zivo i studijski

Kako da snimim dionicu Bb trube?
Sa koje daljine? Pod kojim uglom u odnosu na mic, ako to ima veze?
U kakvom prostoru - da li gluva soba ili malo ambience? Itd.
Kako da obradim audio trak?
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:26 PM   #2
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Aj, aj!
Nema trubaca?!
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Old 03-04-2005, 10:29 PM   #3
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javljam ti sutra cim ustanem.. sad sam mrtav!

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Old 03-04-2005, 10:33 PM   #4
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He! To i mene zanima!! Odmah ubacite tips and tricks i za saksofon ako moze i ako je tko imao iskustva!
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:55 PM   #5
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Truba- dinamicki mic. Preporuka md421, re20 , moze i sm57....
Najcesce se postavlja ispred otvora , moze cak da bude i u osi. Ugao podesavati po zelji i potrebi, naravno ,sto se vise bezi iz ose , zvuk je manje ostar
Sax- Pre neki dan smo imali zanimljiv A/B/C/D test micova za sax
Neuman u87, AKG c414b-uls, Senneiser md421 i AKGd112(on se tu nasao vise slucajno, jer smo snimali i kontrabas)
Snimali smo u vise pozicija, i fora je sledeca. Kod sax-a, gornja polovina otvora (kod klapni) vise zraci levo(od sviraca), a donja ka desnoj strani. U zavisnosti sta se zeli dobiti vredi setati mic ,npr. u visini velikog otvora levo i desno. Nekako najtoplije zvuci kombinacija U87(cudo ) na 45 stepeni desno od sviraca, u visini otvora. Ovde se generalno preporucuju kondezatorski mikr., mada se meni jako svideo i md421. Nekako je rezak, usrednjen( treba ipak cuti) i imam utisak da bi u matrici super izasao. AKG c 414, ne znam, nit, smrdi nit mirise, skroz je neutralan.
Mada, kada bi snimao onu plavu (Candy Dufler- kako li se vec pise : ), sve teorije padaju u vodu........
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Old 04-04-2005, 10:49 AM   #6
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e pa to je to.. nemam sta posebno da dodam osim sto bih ja snimanja radio obavezno sa nekim kondenzatorcem (tlm103 verovatno) na nekoj udaljenosti oko 20-ak cm od otvora (sad zavisi, vrdao bi levo desno napred nazad u zavisnosti od sounda)...

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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan9...s/brass778.htm

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Old 04-04-2005, 02:45 PM   #7
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Dakle, sad zasukati rukave i naprijed sa poslom.
Ima jedan problemcic : sam i sviram i snimam. :P
Odlicno za skidanje kila : trci sim - trci tam.
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:02 PM   #8
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Ja pored klarineta sviram i saksofone (sopran, alt, tenor) i moja ocekivanja u poglegu prenosenja zvuka najvise ispunjava AKG c419 (imam ih 3kom). To su mali clip-on kondenzatori, hiperc. karakteristike.
Imam jos i Sennheiser e-608 (dinamicki clip-on, bubreg), snimao sam sa njim trubu, rezultati su bili ODLICNI...

Medutim, ukoliko je neko gledao neki od koncerata koje je radio Sting na DVD (npr. 11.septembra u Italiji), sa njim je svirao trubac koji se mislim zove Chriss Boti, on je koristio AMT mikrofon http://www.appliedmic.com/default.asp
Njegov zvuk mi je jako dobar

I jos nesto: dok sam svirao u USA, imao sam srece da se sretnem sa ljudima iz Blues Brothers benda iz duvacke sekcije, oni snimaju (takodje koriste i za zive nastupe) mikrofone SDsystems. Bio sam na par proba, verujte da je zvuk toliko veran da je to naprosto fascinantno
Savetujem svim duvacima, ukoliko to sebi mogu da priuste...
Evo link, ima i zvucne primere
http://www.sdsystems.com/

Nadam se da je ovo malo rasvetlilo misteriju oko snimanja duvaca...
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:40 PM   #9
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ovo je npr. sistem za klarinet (sanjam ga vec neko vreme)
Jbg, $682

Ili za sopran sax, $655
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http://www.sdsystems.com/movie/sdsystems.mov

Skinuti (14MB) i poslusati!!!
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