Rumski Forum - Quested S8 ili Adam p11a?

hahahah.. ali moram ovo da podelim sa vama.. na gearslutzu sam postavio isto pitanje.. i na kraju sam dao veoma detaljan pregled uporednog testa adam p11a i quested s8r monitora.. i hahah.. bash sam ocrnio adame.. mislim, tako je ispalo.. jer su me questedi oduvali.. i na to mi se javio neki lik iz adam audio usa-a na pp.. kao, ochigledno nemash pojma o chemu prichash.. hahah.. kao bezveze si ih ocrnio.. necesh slushati cdove na njima, probaj da smixash pesmu na oba monitora, pa vidi sa kojom cesh lakocom to da uradish i kako ce to zvuchati na ostalim sistemima.. tu ce sigurno pobediti adam..

hahah.. a prosta je stvar: ako ti je mix super na tvojim monitorima, a na ostalim sistemima ima premalo bass-a, znachi da treba da smanjish bass na monitorima ne bi li imao bolji mix.. a ako su ovi na srednjim i visokim prshtavi, mogu samo da zamislim na shta ce mi lichiti finalni proizvod.. (naravno to vec sve znate) i ja to njemu napishem, i nije mi odgovorio.. a tu je.. hahah..

koji car jbt, ne verujem.. znachi, morao sam da podelim ovo sa vama.. ono adamov ambasador na gearslutzu me kontaktirao jer sam im "isprozivao" p11ice.. hahah.. ne bi me chudilo da urigira da se obrishe post.. elem, evo vam kopija tog mog posta..

stvarno, recite mi vi da li sam neshto loshe rekao? :?
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ok, I've been in my friend's studio and:

adam p11a - very tight bottom end, useless (for me) when not mached with a sub, mids and higs are clear as hell.. but, having a close look (when I've played the refference cd's) I've discovered:

they are revealing, BUT they just cover up the not-too-bad mixes, and the good mixes feel just fine on them.. first, I've listened to the "audioslave - show me how to live" track (the mix is good, very good but not the greatest) and the snare was poping right like it should, the guitars were just right.. overall 5pts

on the other side (the s8r), I've noticed some things I didn't till now.. a few times morello (guitars) mutes his strings, and there was no sound of the guitar part at all.. in a few seconds.. ok, I've noticed that, but on my monitors (tapco s8) and on adam's that isn't that noticable (or however you spell it) :) there is a bit of "reverb" of some kind.. not exacly a reverb (I can't really define that), but the sound isnt even close to the quested's.. 5+1pts

second track - audioslave "be yourself track" (the mix is close to brilliant -the sound I'm trying to achieve when mixing rock music).. the playback was, good but a little too harsh for my opinion.. the mids and higs were snaping and popping, and I didn't like that at all.. bass? it was there, but a little bit hidden.. I know, the p33a will cover up the bass freq, but the art tweeter is the same.. the dot on the kick drum was punching me in the eye.. 2pts

the quested s8r? just as it should be.. revealing. precise on the mid's and hig's, and bass was very well reproduced.. 5pts

so, let's go to the third track:

50 cent feat olivia - "candy shop" - dre did a masterpiece with that (and with a bunch of following tracks like "possition of power" and "so amasyng" , that is offcourse, my oppinion.. the sound was good, the kick was tight but there was no freq bellow that (and the p11a was setted up to flat).. the middles and highs were, again a bit to harsh for my taste.. 3pts

again the s8r's won the round, by not being a hi fi emulation, with a stereo picture of great studio monitors.. the kick was tight like ti should be, the sub bass freq was realy neat and the mids and higs were right where they should be.. I could even hear 50 switching his paper sides when rapping..

then we come to kanye west "stronger" single, and "ayo tehnology" performed by 50 justin and timbo (shitty mixes, for my standards..).. the playback was nothing I've expected.. the songs could be ranked as a "good mix".. and this is ADAM's ground.. the highs and mid freq's just didnt sound bad at all.. It was evident that the mix is not a brilliant one, but I couldnt rank em into "poor mixes" when I've listened the songs on p11a's.. so that's when my exscitement about the ART tehnology dropped.. 0pts

the s8r's didnt make up the bad mix.. u could really hear that the mic was great (ayo tech) and that the other isntruments did had to be brought into the picture.. at the "stronger" track, the kicks were dull and awfull (like they are) and u could hear all of the synths played in the song.. 5pts

the next was pendulum and crystal method therapy.. they were good, but when listened to the first crystal method album's songs, they've sounded good.. at pendulum tracks, you couldnt even hear the bass line like it was supposed to be.. it was too punchy and harsh.. yet again, the adam's failed the test.. 0pts

s8r: pendulum - all the freq's were reproduced clearly, and the bass was tight and sawing your brains out.. like a square bass is supposed to sound like.. :? the crystal method's first album tracks (cant remember the names of the songs), RMS is low, bass is too booming, the mix is awful and the sr8's get 5pts.

then I've listened to warren g's "looking at you" a simple but a great mix, and so funk's "love gone wrong" a excelent and crystal clear mix.. the adam's were harsh as a winter on a south pole, and I barely could listen to them.. my ears and head started hurting right on.. 0pts

while on the s8r every sound was crystal clear and just as it should be. it was floating nicely and the mixes sounded great as they are.. the clap on the "love gone rong" track was as crisp as it should be.. 5pts

the last, bud not the least were few of my tracks.. you can listen to them on MySpace.com - Salliery - strip junak - Belgrade, Beograd - Hip Hop - www.myspace.com/lacasanostra (serbian hip hop) and MySpace.com - The Speakerz - - Breakbeat / Electro / Drum & Bass - www.myspace.com/thespeakerz (I'ld call it experimental film electro music for now, 'cause you can't put not one track into only one genre and get away with it)

the sound on adam's was superb.. realy, I've got an erection, while playing back on quested s8r's I had a feeling that I'm really listening the tracks on a real monitoring system.. (yet again) :) the stereo imaging was great, and I was, sincerely, very proud to listen to my tracks on that system..

I know what my tracks look like, since I've listened to them on a numerous monitors (ns10, hr824, some genelec's, the new digidesigns etc etc) and speakers.. (including 2.1 "home theater", car audio system etc etc) so I know what my tracks soud like.. in serbia, they call it "exceptional", but I'ld like to rank them as "pretty good"..

all of the tracks were played back for each monitor pair separatelly, on a resonable SPL level (a quarter of the maximum, and then on a half of a maximum input level), both pairs were set to flat positions..

my opinion: quested deliver a real sound picture to the listener, without any colloring or harshness.. the s8r's are exceptional.. couldn't find another word.. they are brylliant.. a monitoring system that I've was searching for.. the only thing I didn't like, they could get a bit messy in the sub bass levels (bellow 45hz) and that's not a plus.. so, if I could buy the vh2108 for a 1300 euros, and buy a quad405II for 300 euros, and have a real quested sound, with the bass extension, then I'll go for them..

about the adams.. I will almost very likely buy them just to use as a "refference" monitorig system.. them or the ns10's.. anyway, the sound of p11a was very close to the a7's (wich I've heard before) and that is baaaaaad.. so, if I would buy the adam's, I'ld go for the a7's.. and most likely, I will..

any other suggestions? I'm still open for them.. :) untill it's too late.. :)

oh, and one more thing: the stereo imaging is great on both of the systems, but I came to notice that s8r's have a bit larger sweet spot as well as a wider stereo picture..

peace everyone..

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ma ko ga J. ;) tek kada budes mixao ne njima videces koliko je quested bolji ;)

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Originally Posted by HeatMan (Post 194380)