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supersonic
29-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Đe ste ljudi ! Nije me bilo odavno, pa rek'o da vam se javim.
Naime, kupio sam ovdje od jednog Rumska?a novog Stingray-a i prezadovoljan sam. ono ?to mene interesuje sad, jeste neki '' fine tunning '' bas gitare:

U pitanju je gitara : MusicMan Stingray

Ono ?to sam na sajtu na?ao je sledeće:

First check relief in the neck by holding the lowest string down on the 2nd fret with your fretting (left) hand. Then, hold the same string down on the 12th fret with your plucking thumb and tap on the string in the middle to see how straight the neck is. There should be no more than the thickness of a business card between the string and the frets. If there is no relief in the neck, a little pressure in the middle of the neck (after adjusting the trussrod wheel) should help.

Ajde kao, ovo gore kapiram

The standard string gauge is .45-.100 with a .130 on the low "B" for the 5 string at 440 tuning. If you decide to tune down, typically you would increase the gauge for every 1/2 step downward that you tune. This will keep most of the measurements close by having more tension on the neck.
Factory String heights are: Bass side 3/32 to 7/64 Treble side: 5/64" to 7/64" from the top of the 12th fret to the bottom of the string. The rest of the strings should have the radius of the fretboard when looking at the top of the string, (with the A string hidden from view by the E string, etc.), rotating the bass at the same time. The "right" string height is, of course, ultimately determined by your playing style.
The pickup should be 4/32" to 5/32" on the bass side and slightly closer (4/32" to 5/32" on the treble side. This is determined by tuning and volume of strings measured by the top of the pole piece to the bottom of the strings. If the G string needs more volume, adjust it slightly more toward the pickup. Again, if you tune down, more distance is needed here, as well; but in any case, no lower than 4/32".


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If fret buzz occurs from the open to the fifth fret, the neck needs more relief. If it buzzes between the 5th fret and the 12th fret, the neck needs to be straighter (turn the wheel slightly clockwise). If it occurs all over the neck, the string height need to increase (by turning the trussrod wheel slightly counter-clockwise).


ovo kapiram



For intonation: Check the harmonics to the fretted note on the 12th note on the twelfth fret if you don't play much above that fret. If you do, also check the harmonics at the 19th fret after the 12th fret is set. If the fretted note is sharp, you need to make the string longer by turning the saddle screw counterclockwise, and vice versa. Make sure that the string are coming off of the saddle straight and not in an arch. All measurements must be rechecked after each adjustment.
ovo onako shvatam ... hmmm ... treba pomoći opet...



mo?e li nekakava pomoć ? Ove cifre me bune, i neki tehnički termini ...

Boombass
30-05-2009, 01:33 PM
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If fret buzz occurs from the open to the fifth fret, the neck needs more relief. If it buzzes between the 5th fret and the 12th fret, the neck needs to be straighter (turn the wheel slightly clockwise). If it occurs all over the neck, the string height need to increase (by turning the trussrod wheel slightly counter-clockwise).



Ako to "zuje" ?ice od otvorene do 5-tog praga malo opusti ?ipku u vratu.Ako ti ?ice zuje od 5 do 12-tog praga lagano zate?i ?ipku.Ako ti "zuje" ?ice po cijelom vratu pomalo ih podi?i i isto tako pomalo zate?i ?ipku u smjeru kazaljke na satu.

To sve mora? raditi stvarno u malim koracima tako da bi dobio to ?to ?eli?.

awacs
30-05-2009, 05:16 PM
mo?e li nekakava pomoć ? Ove cifre me bune, i neki tehnički termini ...

Cifre su razlomci inča (?to bi rekli cola), pa ti je recimo 7/64 zapravo 25,4mm : 64 x 7 = 2,778125mm. Ono "bass side je ustvari E ?ica, a "treble side" je G ?ica, pa se priča o "zazorima" ("luftovima") između vrha praga i dna ?ice, to mu je to... Mada lepo ka?e da sve to zavisi od toga ?ta ti prija. Dok ti nije ni premekano ni pretvrdo, i ne zvrnda a ?timuje - dobro je.

Najbolje bi bilo da nađe? nekoga ko se bavi preciznom mehanikom i ko ima zazornike (one pločice sa tačnom debljinom), po?to će to te?ko ići da meri? santimetrom na oko.

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milanCHE
30-05-2009, 06:49 PM
....... Mada lepo kaže da sve to zavisi od toga šta ti prija. Dok ti nije ni premekano ni pretvrdo, i ne zvrnda a štimuje - dobro je.

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upravo je u ovome fora sto ti awacs kaze....batali ti razne preporuke i specifikacije i "standarde".tvoj je instrument i prilagodjavas ga sebi.akciju,intonaciju i ostale parametre.....pri tome imaj na umu da se sa sipkom("truss rod-om")u vratu jaaaako lagano i ne bas precesto manipulise(odvrce i zavrce).uostalom,koliko je meni poznato,m.m.sting-ray(kao i ostale m.m. bas-gitare) je vrlo konzistentna i dobro projektovana gitara...da li zaista imas potrebe da radis neke intervencije ili te samo onako tehnicki zanima?
moje misljenje je da dobitnu kombinaciju ne treba dirati...tj.ne cackaj dok radi dobro!
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