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Old 25-08-2009, 10:52 AM   #21
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Iskreno Neve ti zvuci bolje?
PRE-73 je polukinez od 300Eura i ja mislim da je za tu kintu M.R.A.K.,barem ono sto sam cuo slusajuci na desetina snimaka tim uredjajem razlicitim mikrofonima.Ni sam da ga pravis za 300 Eura neces bolje proci.U osnovi ima Neve zvuk i svakako da nema dimenzionalnost i finese kao original ali zvuci odlicno.
Ja i kolega cekamo neku lovu i odmah ce da padnu dva komada,najmanje.
Sve je to ok , ali.....testovi preampa tipa: akusticna , vokal i sl. uglavnom ne daju pravu informaciju, jer ko nema extra monitoring i izverzirano uho , nema pojma ni sta da slusa.GE je definitivno za te pare i vise nego dobar , ali koliko zaista vredi pokazace neki duzi period koristenja.Moje iskustvo sa nekim drugim polukinezima varira od "solidno zadovoljan" do "ocajan".Ocajan sam bio kad u ruci imam extra da konvertor kome npr. ne radi fantom na preampu (i to vazi za sve proizvedene komade), ne moze da lockuje externi clock i sl.Kupis ga za 300 eur a onda za par meseci molis da ga prodas za 200.......bacanje para ...ali bukvalno....
GE me je privukao jer je jedan od retkih pokusaja jeftinog kloniranja Neve preampa , a navodno se pokazao kao odlican.Sve u svemu ...sutra mi stize.
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Old 25-08-2009, 06:15 PM   #22
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baci neke utiske obavezno...

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Old 25-08-2009, 08:33 PM   #23
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Default Neve ili Vintech 72

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"Imam stvarno stari BAE 1272 koji bi trebalo biti u osnovi iz originalnih dijelova Neve. Testirao sam ga u odnosu na Vintech Dual 72 (mnogo puta). Niti jedan je superioran u odnosu na druge, oni su ipak različiti. Vintech je začinjen u vrhu (oko 8-12khz), Vintech je malo masniji oko 80-150hz, gdje Neve ima malo vi?e prisustva oko 8khz i malo deblji u niskim MID (250-400Hz ). Vintech je malo dinamičniji pa je bolji zvuk na bubnjevima i akustike gdje nebih koristio Neve 1272 zato ?to je daleko previ?e mekan i gust na pogre?nim mjestima (ali stvarno lijepo zvuci za vokal, klavijature, jer omek?ava / zadebljava / usporava na lijep način).BAE NEVE je vi?e naprijed u zvučnoj slici ali Vintech ima vi?e dubine."
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Old 28-08-2009, 12:14 PM   #24
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Evo stigao je ....malo sam ga probao ...i.......za sad sam zadovoljan.Puno karaktera i topline ali baaaas puno...pravi vintage zvuk.Dosta gaina, verovatno ima dovoljno i za ribone.Mozes ga uterati fino i u distorziju.DI input mi se ne svidja , barem na mom Gibsonu(u stvari china fake ali radi fenomenalno)...... zvuci previse tamno i zvuk je nekako previse topao i zabasiran tako da nema potreban edgy attack za kasniju distorziju preko vst emulacija.
Dobra je ovo kupovina....nista epohalno...300 eur nije uopste malo para i mislim da je to realna cena za ovaj preamp.Stalno slusam Neve (nisam siguran je li to bas 1073) sa jednog Ameka koji ima ortak i imam utisak da ovaj preamp radi malo prljavije i masnije..... za takav tip zvuka definitivno je bitno da postoji bolja 3d definicija i mozda svilenkastiji visoki jer upravo to odvaja low od hi-end klase.Sve u svemu kolko para toliko i muzike....mozda kod GA jos malo muzike.....ne previse.
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Old 29-08-2009, 11:45 AM   #25
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Eto ...nije proslo 2 dana a vec mi crko osigurac.Jedino dobro je sto sam video da nije tesko zameniti trafo.....Franko-Panko sta ti preporucujes ...koji konkretno model umesto postojeceg?

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EEE,kada vec pre?....a pitam se i kakva je i odakle potice ta koloracija o kojoj pricas....samo da nije od losih komponenti.Nije bas svaka koloracija ok.
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Old 29-08-2009, 12:11 PM   #27
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EEE,kada vec pre?....a pitam se i kakva je i odakle potice ta koloracija o kojoj pricas....samo da nije od losih komponenti.Nije bas svaka koloracija ok.
Veruj...ova jeste.I Behringer ultragain ima slicnu koloraciju....ali je u sustini razlika ko noc i dan.Ovo je prepuno harmonika i prijatne saturacije...nije to onaj jeftin sound gde se u mixu sve raspada jer nema zdravog gaina.Mozda...ali mozda ...malo vise grebe u visokima....medjutim imam utisak da mu to zapravo i daje taj vintage karakter....kao da je spektar izmedju 4 i 6 Khz malo izdignut a kasnije ima blagi pad.E ja se nadam da sa boljim trafoom povucem ceo zvuk vise u 3d i da ceo spektar iznad tog kriticnog bude malo svilenkastiji.
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Old 29-08-2009, 12:30 PM   #28
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Dobro je...Bolji trafo ce sigurno da pomogne.Mozda malo procesljati i elektrolite pa i otpornike kada se vec radi ali dobro je da u startu nije ona jeftina i neupotrebljiva koloracija koja samo smeta.Ajd bas nam javi utiske kada ga malo dopeglas.Pozzz
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Old 31-08-2009, 08:07 AM   #29
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Evo, imas tu nekoliko opcija:

Neve 1272, 1290, or 1063/73 minus EQ

mic input Marinair T1444; T1454; or 10468
St. Ives VT22670.
Carnhill (who purchased St. Ives) VTB9045
Sowter 9145
JLM Audio 1:4 ? Two of them as a series : parallel (1:2) or parallel : parallel (1:4) pair.
Lundahl LL1538 ? Change cap on the secondary from 180pF to 390pF.
- OEP A262A3E ? Wired for series : parallel (1:3.225).
- or use half of 31267 in reverse for 1:2

line input Marinair T1422; T1442; T1452;
St. Ives VT22671.
Carnhill VTB9046
Sowter 9165

output Marinair LO1166,
St. Ives VT23326(?).
Carnhill VTB9049 (original replacement), VTB1148 (narrow for rack mounting), or VTB1847 (PCB version w/breakout leads).
Sowter 8751 (regular size), or 9160 (narrow version for 1RU cases).
- JLM Audio 1:1:1DC ? Does not require zobel network of 1.5k & .01uF or 600 ohm load on the secondary.

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Evo, imas tu nekoliko opcija:

Neve 1272, 1290, or 1063/73 minus EQ

mic input Marinair T1444; T1454; or 10468
St. Ives VT22670.
Carnhill (who purchased St. Ives) VTB9045
Sowter 9145
JLM Audio 1:4 ? Two of them as a series : parallel (1:2) or parallel : parallel (1:4) pair.
Lundahl LL1538 ? Change cap on the secondary from 180pF to 390pF.
- OEP A262A3E ? Wired for series : parallel (1:3.225).
- or use half of 31267 in reverse for 1:2

line input Marinair T1422; T1442; T1452;
St. Ives VT22671.
Carnhill VTB9046
Sowter 9165

output Marinair LO1166,
St. Ives VT23326(?).
Carnhill VTB9049 (original replacement), VTB1148 (narrow for rack mounting), or VTB1847 (PCB version w/breakout leads).
Sowter 8751 (regular size), or 9160 (narrow version for 1RU cases).
- JLM Audio 1:1:1DC ? Does not require zobel network of 1.5k & .01uF or 600 ohm load on the secondary.

Pozz.
Hvala puno......sta mislis ...koji prvo zameniti..tj. koji ce najvise uticati na zvuk.

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