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Old 03-11-2009, 03:51 PM   #11
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Matori....

Pazi ovo:

dve i nesto 'iljade,ali je mamara , cak i za Mackie... Sve nesto razmisljam... A mozes analogni mix, moze da je kontroler za DAW, moze sta 'oces... Vraca sve kanale...



Preamp
The ZED-R16’s pre-amp, which has been specially designed for this application, has a symmetrical ultra linear circuit. The best epitaxial low noise transistors are used in the front end, and active feedback is employed in both phases before the differential amplifier. This results in super-low distortion, while maintaining low noise (-128.5dBu EIN), high CMRR, and a transparent and beautiful sounding pre-amp.

EQ section
Complete with two swept, fully parametric mids, and high and low shelving EQ, the ZED-R16 has a sophisticated equalisation section without rival in this section of the market. It has much in common with our class-leading pro touring mixers. Forty years of analogue mixer design has given us an unparalleled knowledge of filtering.

Auxiliary sends
Two pre and two post aux buses can be used as feeds for headphone amplifiers in the studio, FX sends anywhere, or wedge foldback live. The talkback function is either routed to the aux or studio outputs, so is ideal for any environment.

FireWire flexibility
The digital audio connections are all present on the rear of the desk. Two FireWire connectors allow the ZED-R16 to be connected to a personal computer whilst the second socket daisy chains devices. Two switches change the sample rate and routing selection, while 4 connectors allow input and output to ADAT equipment.




ADAT
In addition to the Firewire input and output, the ZED-R16 has 4 ADAT optical sockets. The I/O routing on the ZED-R16 is identical for the Firewire channels and the ADAT optical connection. With a combination of panel switches, the mixer is capable of an incredible 26 simultaneous inputs and outputs. Feed the ZED-R16 from ADAT lightpipe equipment, or record directly out from 16 channels to 2 ADAT machines, or to another soundcard.


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Old 03-11-2009, 04:22 PM   #12
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http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov0...eathzedr16.htm

test link...nahvalili su ga..!
za te pare je super...€2000 kod Thomanna, sa VAT-om (20% !!) vat se valjda skida z export...
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:26 PM   #13
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http://www.thomann.de/de/allenheath_zed_r16.htm


2185?

Mislim da je Artist jeftiniji...

http://artistsystems.net/mex/artikal.php?art=6176#


2124?

Bez cimanja i sa garancijom...
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uh..ne stajte mi na muku..
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Old 03-11-2009, 04:58 PM   #15
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pa pazi, Onyx u osnovnoj varijanti ko?ta 1200e, i treba dodati jo? 400e za tu konverziju, koja em je jednosmerna (vraća na mixer SAMO 2ch outputa iz kompa!), em i nije ne?to bog zna ?ta kvalitetna, em NE uključuje EQ sekciju, već samo op-amp tojes preamp. A tolika brojka kanala i preampa nisam siguran da mu je potrebna za ovu namenu.
Vaistinu, integralna verzija 1640i kod Thomanna dođe 1900 ?, meni to palo na pamet kao zgodno re?enje za Motif... Mada broj kanala jeste overkill, ali ima i manjih ONYX-a...

@Big Bockie:

Zed-R16 - ima sve ?to treba i izgleda impresivno za te pare, ali ja imam (istorijske) predrasude u odnosu na A&H EQ sekciju... Kao i na sve ostale "budget" britanske EQ sekcije (StudioMaster, Seck, brrrr....). Ali to sam samo ja, a ja sam mator

...A Mackie volem (i to je fakat),
on mi je ljubav jeftina,
prod'o bi' onu Alenhit na lakat,
pa nek je stoput' jengleska

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Old 03-11-2009, 05:35 PM   #16
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Heh, pa ne moras da koristis EQ, imas modove kako hoces da svaki kanal radi,pa bocnes UAD-a na svaki ako 'oces i hitic - Mile Kitic...
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od kad je par ljudi oko mene uspelo da za oko 2k eura pazari neke takve mrcine poput studiomastera, od tad menjam percepciju o ovom rangu sprava. Nisu dovoljno velike shiny fuck-off things, koje ostavljaju taj WOW efekat kad se uđe u studio. Znam za očigledne prednosti, naročito portabilnosti Mackie i Zed-a, ali ovo jednostavno lomi vidik I negde verujem da te mrcine ipak imaju opak sound, probao i oduševio se. Najviše bih voleo da je puno para pa da se pazari i jedno i drugo
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Znam za očigledne prednosti, naročito portabilnosti Mackie i Zed-a, ali ovo jednostavno lomi vidik I negde verujem da te mrcine ipak imaju opak sound, probao i oduševio se. Najviše bih voleo da je puno para pa da se pazari i jedno i drugo
Ali paj' sad šta šta piše na trećoj stranici Owner's Manuala za 1640i:

"See page 42 for details of getting started with FireWire"

Jeste OT, ali ne uzdržah se

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HAHAHA ... after seven and a half milion years, all you have to say is 42????
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Pozdrav svima,

Beskrajno vam hvala na postovima kojima mi pomazete da se odlucim. Iskreno, nisam vičan toliko tehničkim trendovima i mogućnostima koje pojedine sprave nude, bez obzira što sam u poslednjih par meseci naučio prilično, i zato mi vaši saveti znače da bih potvrdio svoje razmišljanje. Pa ovako:

@Big Bockie: Jesam pitao za monitore, pošto nisam baš oduševljen Yamahama HS80 i ne znam da li da ih prodam i uložim u još neki bolji monitoring? Slušao sam istu stvar na nekim Adamima i, ispravite me ako grešim, ima razlike u kvalitetu. A posle sam čuo da Adam monitori važe za elitu.
Što se mikrofona tiče, još bih sačekao malo sa tim. Imam tog Senheisera 865 za tezge i on je kondenzator, pa bih za početak radio sa njim. Naravno, ako ostane parica, već sada bih uzeo nešto opako dobro.

@Awacs: Onyx mi se ne svidja u društvu ostalih.

Znači nakon vaših postova predlažu se sledeće konfiguracije:

Računar (Cubase) + RME800 + Mikrofon
Računar (Cubase) + RME800 + Zed16 ili Tascam
Računar (Cubase) + Zed16 ili Tascam 3200 + Mikrofon + eventualno UAD2.

Ja mislim da bih ja bio najsrećniji čovek na svetu, ako bih pazario drugu varijantu, mixetu. Ali da li je meni to neophodno za početak, s obzirom da mi u prvoj varijanti ostaje više para za neki dobar mikrofon? A opet, imam mikrofon i možda je bolje da bubnem lovu za Tascam 3200 i RME800? Stvarno sam sludjen.

Nije mi lako odlučiti se, jer nisam doživeo mogućnosti jednog i drugog setup-a, a relativno sam i nov u ovome svemu. Mogu li dobiti još koji predlog od forumaša?

Hvala svima, najjači ste

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