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Old 01-09-2008, 08:42 AM   #21
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Zamislite flac kao zip za wavove, i to vam je to. Nema gubitka informacija, a mozete ih slusati u realnom vremenu. Jedina mana flac-a kao standarda je sto ne podrzava float formate, tako da mozete koristiti samo "obicne" 24bit fajlove, ali ne i 32-bitne, kakve izbacuje dosta softvera.
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Zamislite flac kao zip za wavove, i to vam je to. Nema gubitka informacija, a mozete ih slusati u realnom vremenu. Jedina mana flac-a kao standarda je sto ne podrzava float formate, tako da mozete koristiti samo "obicne" 24bit fajlove, ali ne i 32-bitne, kakve izbacuje dosta softvera.
a jel podrzava 32bit integer?


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ovo je lossless, a ne lossy kompresija.
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Zamislite flac kao zip za wavove, i to vam je to. Nema gubitka informacija, a mozete ih slusati u realnom vremenu. Jedina mana flac-a kao standarda je sto ne podrzava float formate, tako da mozete koristiti samo "obicne" 24bit fajlove, ali ne i 32-bitne, kakve izbacuje dosta softvera.
Aha, to je ta kvaka, sorry... Ali to opet znaci debele gubitke na performansama?
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Aha, to je ta kvaka, sorry... Ali to opet znaci debele gubitke na performansama?
o kakvim performansama pricas?

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a jel podrzava 32bit integer?
Trebalo bi da podrzava, ali meni licno je mrsko da stalno proveravam da li ga je spakovao kako treba ili nije, jer obicno ne pazim koji je 32bit format pri eksportu, tako da pakujem sa wavpackom http://www.wavpack.com/

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FLAC supports linear PCM samples with a resolution between 4 and 32 bits per sample. FLAC does not support floating point samples. In some cases it is possible to losslessly transform samples from an incompatible range to a FLAC-compatible range before encoding.
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Aha, to je ta kvaka, sorry... Ali to opet znaci debele gubitke na performansama?
gubi se na performansama, ali nije strasno, vise gubis dekodovanjem mp3 fajla nego flac-a ili bilo kog loseless formata

E pa ako imas kompjuter koji ne moze da dekoduje flac fajl u realnom vremenu, baci ga slobodno kroz prozor, neko ce ga docekati na grudi
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Pa sistem to mora da rekompresuje u real time-u i salje zvucnoj, zar ne? Pakujes ti to lepo u finu kompresiju bez gubitaka, ali dekoder, kad ti preslusavas jede cpu kao pop Spira krofne, ili mozda i ne bas?
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Ma ne brini, ne jede bas toliko, cak ima audio programa koji snimaju flac fajlove u realnom vremenu, i to multikanalno. Reaper mislim da je jedan od njih, i mozda tracktion, mada nisam siguran za njega, zaboravio sam.
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gubi se na performansama, ali nije strasno, vise gubis dekodovanjem mp3 fajla nego flac-a ili bilo kog loseless formata

E pa ako imas kompjuter koji ne moze da dekoduje flac fajl u realnom vremenu, baci ga slobodno kroz prozor, neko ce ga docekati na grudi
Aha, predpostavio sam da manje uzima od lossy, znaci dodjosmo mi do zakljucka - koristiti PLAC i uzivati...

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A sta je sa kompatabilnosti sa klasicnim sekvencerima Nuendo, Cubase? Radi li tamo dobro, ima li podrsku za sve zasta ima i wav? Ako da, onda stvarno treba koristiti PLAC umesto WAV-a...
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