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Old 12-11-2011, 09:11 PM   #1
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Negde sam procitao i to da je dosta VST pluginova kalibrisano da najbolje radi na -18 dBFS (i da, moguce je klipovati sam input pluginova, sto, osim ako sam plugin nije modelovan tako da radi, dovodi do toga da cesto zvuce losije). Bilo to tacno ili ne, pravilan gain staging nije na odmet, i samo moze da pomogne. On jeste mnogo znacajniji bio u analognoj eri, ali neke stvari i sada vaze.

Suma sumarum, treba teziti da ti individualne trake peak-uju izmedju -18 i -12 dBFS (mada, moze i manje, ali ne treba zaboraviti da se sve one sabiraju i daju ukupan nivo na grupama, a na kraju i na master busu, na kom bi trebalo teziti da max nivo peak-a bude izmedju -12 i -6, da bi se imalo dovoljno headroom-a za kasniji mastering), i da manje-vise tu i ostanu u toku miksa. Naravno, ako npr. kick TREBA da bude glasniji, slobodno ga pojacaj; poenta je da to nivelisanje radis preko volume slidera na samom kanalu, a ne preko pluginova. Njih koristi za karakter zvuka, ne za nivo.
Pretpostavljam da mislis na srednje vrijednosti jer peak u danasnje doba 32/64bita ne znaci 'nista' u mixu..
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Old 14-11-2011, 06:43 AM   #2
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Ne, mislim na peak vrednosti, jer se sve sabira, pa ako ne pazis, lako zavrsis sa overom na master busu.
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ne, mislim na peak vrednosti, jer se sve sabira, pa ako ne pazis, lako zavrsis sa overom na master busu.
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sta to znaci?
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Old 17-11-2011, 07:36 PM   #5
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sta to znaci?
Da se ne slazem sa tom izjavom..
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To sam skapirao. Mozes li da pojasnis i zasto?
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To sam skapirao. Mozes li da pojasnis i zasto?
Valjda zato ?to "overen master" mo?e? da sti?a?. I zato ?to danas (kad je čak i PT pre?ao na 32-bit floating point re?im rada) mo?e? VEOMA MNOGO da sti?a? Master Fader bez čujnih gubitaka u kvalitetu zvuka. A u slučaju 64-bit floating point DAW mo?e? NENORMALNO MNOGO da ga sti?a? bez čujnih gubitaka.

Evo dva testa (u zajedničkoj arhivi) - prvi je projekat za Nuendo 4 (32-bit float), drugi za Reaper 4 (64-bit float):

http://www.box.com/s/utvfyidchegvldq00ysr

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P.S. Ako ikome bude palo na pamet da radi "null test", tj, da obrće faze i slično (): prvo uradite NORMALIZE renderovanih fajlova (recimo na -0,1dBFS peak) pa tek onda sabirajte i oduzimajte I naravno podesite softver u kom merite na maksimalnu rezoluciju (bar preko 120dB)
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To sam skapirao. Mozes li da pojasnis i zasto?
Zato sto preporucujes preniske nivoe u doba kada u svakom daw-u imas mogucnost gotovo neogranicenog virtualnog headrooma sta je i awacs spomenuo.. Osim toga kalibracija koju si naveo odnosi se na dBFS RMS, a ne dBFS.
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