Volite li digitalce?

[Edi Prog]

Da, stvarno odlično da je dodan taj dio forumu. I super je da ima ovdje ljudi dosta visokog profila.
Di ste probali Midasa?

[Arthur]

Ja u par navrata, Venice 24 i neki još veći. Po mom osećaju, EQ koji čita misli

[Edi Prog]

Originally Posted by Arthur

Ja u par navrata, Venice 24 i neki jo? veći. Po mom osećaju, EQ koji čita misli

Barem Verona. Venice je dosta nepraktičan za rad.
Ali ovdje se priča o digitalijama....

[lesha]

kao insajder u Artistu da kazem par reci o novom presonusu 24.4.2

ovaj mikser dolazi u prodaju tek za oko 14 dana, a iz centrale sam cuo da imamo vec 14 komada u pretplati, pre nego sto ga je iko probao uzivo, samo je vidjen na NAMM i u Frankfurtu!

cini mi se da je odnos karakteristika/cena/zvuk odlican.
manji brat sa 16 kanala nije tako dobro opremljen, ima puno razlika, EQ i dosta drugih stvari, ako je takva potraznja za njim, mozda ce vam biti interesantno da pogledate.
stavio sam namerno u Live Sound jer mi rekose da su ga prodali vise rentalcima (za manje i srednje evente) nego studio korisnicima, bar je takvo stanje za sada.
s obzirom na cenu ocekuju da ce ga uzimati i bendovi jer ce kod nas biti oko 3000? !!

evo par interesantnih demoa:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCH-E24qzE4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_E8S...eature=related


vise podataka imate na:
http://www.presonus.com/products/Det...x?ProductId=59







karakteristike:

• 24 mic/line inputs with high-headroom Class A XMAX? mic preamplifiers
• 4 subgroups
• Stereo/mono main out
• 10 auxiliary mixes
• 32-in/26-out FireWire digital recording interface (24-bit/44.1 kHz and 48 kHz)
• Studio One Artist Digital Audio Workstation software for Mac? and PC
• Capture? 1.1 recording software for Mac? and PC
• Direct recording interface compatible with Logic?, Nuendo, Cubase, Sonar?, Digital Performer?, Ableton? Live, and more
• 24 channel strips
• Trim control with ?20 to +20 dBV line/-15 to +65 dBu mic gain range (80dB!)
• +48V phantom power switch for condenser microphones
• FireWire Input Select
• 100 mm precision faders
• Lighted Solo and Mute buttons
• Access to Fat Channel functions
• 15-LED ladder metering + clip LED
• Analog ?" insert (rear panel)
• 4 subgroup buses, each with:

• Solo
• Mute
• Access to Fat Channel functions (except high-pass filter and phase reverse)
• 10 aux sends, each with

• Solo
• Pre/post-fader send
• Output-level control
• Access to Fat Channel functions (except phase reverse)
• Mix and Mix/Pan Fat Channel metering
• Available sources: 24 input channels, Aux A and B, Tape Input, Talkback
• 2 internal effects sends, each with:

• Mute
• Pre/post-fader send
• Output-level control
• Access to Fat Channel (except phase reverse)
• Effects-send Select for Fat Channel metering
• Mix button for aux-bus mixing and Fat Channel metering
• Master Section

• Aux Input A and B
• Level Control and Select (Fat Channel metering) switch
• Access to all Fat Channel functions (except phase reverse)
• Talkback System

• Mic Level control
• Output Select ( Aux 1-2, 3-6, 7-10, Main)
• Talk button
• Rear-panel XLR mic input with level control and continuous 48V phantom power
• 2 Track In

• Level control
• Tape Input to Mains button
• FireWire source on/off
• Solo Bus

• Cue Mix volume control
• PFL/AFL and Solo In Place (SIP) buttons
• Monitor Bus

• Headphone-output level control
• Control-room monitor-level control
• Solo Bus to Monitor button
• Tape Input to Monitor button
• Main L/R FireWire Return to Monitor button
• Main Mix to Monitor button
• Fat Channel with rotary encoders:

• Pan with dedicated 15-LED display
• Stereo link for input channels, aux buses, and subgroups
• Phase reverse (main channels only)
• High-pass filter: 6 dB/oct., sweepable from Off to 1 kHz (main channels and aux?s only)
• 4-band fully parametric equalizer

• Low EQ: sweepable from 36 Hz to 465 Hz, ?15 dB, switchable shelf or peaking
• Low Mid EQ: sweepable from 90 Hz to 1.2 kHz, ?15 dB, variable Q 0.1 to 4.0
• High Mid EQ: sweepable from 380 Hz to 5 kHz, ?15 dB, variable Q 0.1 to 4.0
• High EQ: sweepable from 1.4 kHz to 18 kHz, ?15 dB, switchable shelf or peaking
• Master EQ On/Off button
• Gate: Threshold: 0 to ?84 dB, Attack: 0.02 to 500 ms, Release: 0.05 to 2 sec, Bandpass Key Filter: 40 Hz to 16 kHz, second-order resonant bandpass filter Q (0.7) with Key Listen function
• Compressor: Threshold,-56 to 0 dB; Ratio 1:1 to 14:1, LIM=∞:1; Attack 0.2 to 150 ms; Release 2.5 to 900 ms; Makeup Gain 0 to 28 dB; Soft Knee switch; Auto Mode with 10 ms Attack and 150 ms Release
• Limiter: variable Threshold -28 dBfs to 0, ∞:1 Ratio
• Output Assign: 4 subgroups and main with post-EQ/post-dynamics option
• All settings can be copied among channels and saved as user presets.
• 50 channel-strip presets for drums, bass, guitars, keyboards, and vocals
• 2 internal digital effects-processors, each with 50 customizable reverb and delay presets

• 31-band graphic equalizers

• Assignable in four stereo pairs
• Mono or stereo operation
• Main outputs, aux outputs, subgroup outputs
• Scene Store and Recall
• Global Scene Storage: all current StudioLive settings

• Up to 80 at a time
• Automatic Global AutoStore
• Individual channel-strip Scene storage

• Up to 48 at a time, plus?
• 50 factory presets for instruments and vocal
• Copy and Paste between channels
• Customizable naming (for example, ?Saturday Gig? or ?Main Worship Service?)
• Lockout mode to keep inspired amateurs from changing your settings
• Metering/Displays

• 24 x 16- LED Fat Channel matrix:

• Pre-dynamics/pre-fader input
• Post-dynamics/post-fader output
• Gain reduction
• Aux 1-10 and EFX A/B output
• Fader-position recall
• 8 x 15-LED main meter bank

• Selected channel level
• Selected channel gain reduction
• Sub buses 1 to 4
• Main stereo outputs
• 15-LED horizontal Pan/Balance display
• 64 x 194 LCD matrix

• Effects parameters
• Scene creation, storage, and recall
• System menus
• 2-digit Channel Selected display
• Input/Output

• 24 main inputs, each with XLR mic, ?" line, and ?" inserts
• 2 ?" stereo (L/R) aux inputs
• 1 XLR talkback-mic input with phantom power and level control
• Unbalanced RCA stereo (L/R) tape inputs and outputs
• XLR stereo (L/R) main outputs with level control
• ?" stereo (L/R) main outputs
• XLR mono output with level control
• ?" stereo (L/R) control-room outputs
• ?" Headphone output
• 4 ?" subgroup outputs
• 10 ?" aux outputs
• 24 pre-insert, balanced direct outputs, Ch. 1-8, 9-16, 17-24 (DB25 sockets) S/PDIF digital out
• 2 FireWire 400 ports
• Digitalia

• High-definition analog-to-digital converters (118 dB dynamic range)
• Unlimited-headroom, 32-bit floating point, digital mixing and effects processing
• Internal sample frequency 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz
• Physical

• Rugged, non-flex steel chassis
• 100 mm long-throw faders
• Military-grade, quick-touch buttons
• BNC 12V lamp socket
• Optional dust covers available

[Kal-el]

Originally Posted by Edi Prog

Da, stvarno odlično da je dodan taj dio forumu. I super je da ima ovdje ljudi dosta visokog profila.
Di ste probali Midasa?

Na midasu sam radio dok sam bio na turniji sa KOL.
Otvarali smo za njih 10 koncerata.

u poslednje vreme sve cesce nailazim na Digico sd8. Super sljaka.

[SBaudio]

Veceras sam probao Yamahu PM5D-RH i to je to...Nema bolje nema lepse...

[Boki_R]

Obozavam digitalne miksere zbog preglednosti i mogucnosti memorisanja vise scena. Uglavnom radim sa Yamahama ali mi nisu strani ni ostali proizvodjaci.
Po meni, najveca mana je osetljivost na nestabilni napon mreze i relativno dug restart. Za bitnije koncerte obavezno predvideti nezavisno napajanje.

[Burli]

U ovoj godini niko ni?ta ne pi?e o digitalnim mixerima, izgleda svi se vratili na analogiju...

Elem, kao bend imamo Yamahu 03D, za na?e potrebe odlična sprava ali đavo ne da mira.
Kolega mi je preporučio http://www.viscount.it/eng/products....D0000393C807AC pa me zanima da li neko od Vas je imao priliku da vidi o čemu se to radi, jer ja iskreno nisam ni čuo do skoro za ovaj produkt, a koristio bih ga za neke manje svirke?

[Bockie]

Kakvo loodilo!!!



Nema safta bez soundcrafta!

[Koske]

Hajde da se ozivimo ovu temu...

Lakoca rada i vernost zvuka jesu dva, najbitnija, parametra koji definisu digitalne miksere i stepen 'blizine' analognim mikserima. Oko toga smo se svi slozili.

Od prvih digitalaca, koji su parametre za dati kanal drzali na jednom mestu ( ili ti ' idiot strip' ) do sve modernijeg izgleda, u pokusaju da se oponasa osecaj analognog miksera.

Neki samo svetle, neki rade nesto, dok neki zavijaju sarme. I svi znamo te sprave. SD8, D1 (Digico), Pm5D, LS9, 01-02V (Yamaha), VI-6, Si-3( Soundcraft ), Pro6 (Midas), V400 (Roland), StudioLive (Presonus). Svaki ima svoju cenu i za nju daje ono sto nam treba.

E to je pitanje! "Sta ti treba?"