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Old 20-01-2010, 02:11 PM   #1
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link je vec bio neposredno iznad... ali ajde jos jednom...

http://www.rumski.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27051

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Da, znam za taj thread procitao sam ga... Moj problem je u tome
sto mi je dostupna samo kamena vuna Tervol, a ne Azma koja je inace
prikladna za savijanje i samim tim za ovu vrstu trapa.

http://www.teresaudio.com/haven/traps/traps.html
http://home.comcast.net/~jtgale01/diy2.htm

Na ovim linkovima koristi se kompresirana staklena vuna, iskreno nikad
je nisam vidio niti znam jel postoji kod nas u prodaji..?!
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Old 20-01-2010, 02:14 PM   #2
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Da, znam za taj thread procitao sam ga... Moj problem je u tome
sto mi je dostupna samo kamena vuna Tervol, a ne Azma koja je inace
prikladna za savijanje i samim tim za ovu vrstu trapa.

http://www.teresaudio.com/haven/traps/traps.html
http://home.comcast.net/~jtgale01/diy2.htm

Na ovim linkovima koristi se kompresirana staklena vuna, iskreno nikad
je nisam vidio niti znam jel postoji kod nas u prodaji..?!
Zato i ne savetujem nikom tube traps

Znam, ne preostaje ti nista drugo osim da koristis meku staklenu vunu... i to ljudi najcesce i rade... oni koji bas vole "tube traps"

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Old 20-01-2010, 02:26 PM   #3
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da to je vuna koja je več namjensko napravljena takvog oblika, za cijevi...

Mo?e? da upotrebi? manje gustu kamenu vunu od recimo 30kg/m3 i napravi? deblje stranice/obod i jo? "komprimira? sa ?icom...

Ili ide? preprosto sa superchunks principom ili pločom koja sječe ugao (malo slabija varijanta).

Osobno mi izgledaju prostorije pune tube trapsa neozbiljno... ne znam, mo?da samo meni

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Osobno mi izgledaju prostorije pune tube trapsa neozbiljno... ne znam, mo?da samo meni
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"A thin wood panel faced box with fiberglass inside is also a pressure bass trap, usually getting a 30% efficiency or less, (compare to the efficiency of a TubeTrap that is upwards of 150%)..." Arthur Noxon

Ako rade 5 puta bolje onda se mo?e i zanemariti neozbiljnost njihova
izgleda .
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"A thin wood panel faced box with fiberglass inside is also a pressure bass trap, usually getting a 30% efficiency or less, (compare to the efficiency of a TubeTrap that is upwards of 150%)..." Arthur Noxon

Ako rade 5 puta bolje onda se mo?e i zanemariti neozbiljnost njihova
izgleda .
ima smisla...

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e ako je tako stvarno ima smisla
...ti procenti... teorija... marketing...

evo jednostavno (primjer na brzo, možeš da ideš i na gik acoustics stranicu i vidiš slične dosta impozantne rezultate

gledaj performanse i nadaj se da su mjeritve objektivne (ispod 100Hz nije ništa objektivno btw, nego bolje je ako mjeriš konkretan akustički tretiran prostor...) ali ipak primjeraj ako imaš previše vremena:

http://www.asc-studio-acoustics.com/...trap-flyer.pdf
http://www.realtraps.com/data.htm (gledaj tabelu "MondoTrap In Corner" da te ne zbune Sabini i alfa absorpcijski koeficient...) i modularni superchunks princip http://www.realtraps.com/p_megatraps.htm

Mondotrap i megatraps je "flat" membranski absorber sa dosta tankom plastičnom membranom...

A tek ovaj licenciran "fraunhofer-ov" princip sa pistoničnom metalnom membranom:
http://www.rpginc.com/products/modex...-Broadband.pdf
http://www.rpginc.com/products/modexplate/index.htm
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