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Old 07-08-2008, 01:23 PM   #1
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Koji signal? U slucaju bipolarnog tranzistora (BJT) ovo sto si napisao vazi za njegovu kolektorsku struju. Ako je FET/MOSFET u pitanju onda struja drejna ne prolazi "kroz nulu"... za klasu A.

Ne mora biti unipolarno napajanje.

Prolaskom kolektorske struje bipolarnog tranzistora "kroz nulu", dogadjaju se izoblicenja, a ne sum... i to karakteristicni neparni harmonici.... u slucaju klase A preovladjuju parni harmonici (uslovno... neka generalna karakteristika)

Nikakav to nije specijalan preduslov kvaliteta, moze se uraditi kvalitetno pojacalo i u klasi A i u klasi AB... isto tako moze se i lose pojacalo napraviti u obe klase (cesci slucaj).

Kao sto rekoh... samo nacelno klasa A ne znaci nista spektakularno... ni kod jednih (boljih, skupljih) ni kod drugih (losijih, jeftinijih), u svakom slucaju trud i rad dizajnera se "cuje".

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u pravu si Bogi.... ali na poslu sam pa mi se nije dalo toliko detaljno dečku opisivati A klasu...... pa sam samo u kratko to naveo


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Old 07-08-2008, 03:12 PM   #2
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u pravu si Bogi.... ali na poslu sam pa mi se nije dalo toliko detaljno dečku opisivati A klasu...... pa sam samo u kratko to naveo
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Bolje im posalji link na stranu gde je to detaljnije opisano, ako vec nemas vremena...
klasa A ne moze da se objasni u dve recenice...

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Old 07-08-2008, 04:27 PM   #3
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Znaci oznaka "class A" je reklamni trik kod Behringera, a nije kod Avalona kome to stoji kao company logo.
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:10 PM   #4
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ma ne samo kod behringera kod dosta njih.. ok, kapiram neka rade po tom principu, al jbg sad kad sam vec pogledao ove ostale nachine preampinga kapiram da ni ne bi ni trebalo da se u studijskom poslu koristi klasa b i ostale..
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Old 08-08-2008, 06:02 AM   #5
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...........al jbg sad kad sam vec pogledao ove ostale nachine preampinga kapiram da ni ne bi ni trebalo da se u studijskom poslu koristi klasa b i ostale..
Ponovicu jos jednom za one koji ne citaju ... i necu vise

"Klasa A" ili "Class A", nema veze sa kvalitetom, to je nacin konstrukcije pojacavaca, i sasvim je moguce napraviti i los i dobar pojacavac koristeci taj nacin konstruisanja.

Zove se "klasa" u tehnickom smislu, a ne u vrednosnom, kvalitativnom, kao recimo, namirnice, gradjevinski materijal, namestaj, obradiva zemlja... itd.



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Old 08-08-2008, 12:34 PM   #6
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Ne, ne, ne decko, class a znaci da su krenuli u prvi razred, a class b da su u drugom.
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Ponovicu jos jednom za one koji ne citaju ... i necu vise

"Klasa A" ili "Class A", nema veze sa kvalitetom, to je nacin konstrukcije pojacavaca, i sasvim je moguce napraviti i los i dobar pojacavac koristeci taj nacin konstruisanja.

Zove se "klasa" u tehnickom smislu, a ne u vrednosnom, kvalitativnom, kao recimo, namirnice, gradjevinski materijal, namestaj, obradiva zemlja... itd.



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ma skapirao sam bre chovek.. ali ne vidim da bi ostale klase mogle naci primenu u pro audiu.. to je bila poenta.. izoblichuje signal..
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Opet si pogresno skapirao. I klasa A i Klasa AB imaju primjenu u pro audiju.
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ma skapirao sam bre chovek.. ali ne vidim da bi ostale klase mogle naci primenu u pro audiu.. to je bila poenta.. izoblichuje signal..

Pa ako ces vec o izoblicenjima u pro audiu, evo ti specifikacija za Teletronix LA2A:

Technical Specifications
Input Impedance 50, 150, 250, 600 ohms
Output Load Impedance 50, 150, 250, 600 ohms
External Connections Jones Barrier terminals and XLR connectors
Frequency Response +0/-1 dB 30 Hz to 15kHz
Gain 40 dB ? 1dB
Input Level +16 dB maximum
Output Level +10 dB nominal, +16 dB maximum
Distortion Less than 0.5% THD (0.25% typical) at ?10 dBm
Noise 70 dB below +10 dBm output level
Attack Time 10 milliseconds
Release Time 0.06 seconds for 50% release; 0.5 to 5 seconds for complete release
Meter dB gain reduction and dB output
Power Requirements 35 watts, 120/240 volts, 50/60 Hz
Environmental Maximum operating temperature 160?F
Dimensions 19" Rackmount chassis, 3U
Weight 13 lbs.




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Input Impedance 600 ohms, bridges-T control (floating)
Output Load Impedance 600 ohms, floating, damping factor 20
External Connections Jones Barrier terminals and XLR connectors
Frequency Response ? 1 dB 20 Hz to 20kHz
Gain 50 dB
Distortion Less than 0.5% total harmonic distortion from 50 Hz to 15 kHz with limiting
Signal to Noise Ratio Greater than 70 dB at +10 dBm
Attack Time 20 microseconds to 800 microseconds
Release Time 50 milliseconds to 1.1 seconds

Obrati paznju na THD i frequency response.
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