Focusrite Liquid-mix..utisci

[Eyes]

koliko kosta ova sprava?

[Tomislav]

Jel treba za taj test neko iskutvo sa analogijama? Jer glupo mi se testirati na nešto što iskustveno nisam doživio.

[DaBear]

Jbga..kazu i na Gearslutz-u isto..nisu samplovi i procesovani samplovi iste jacine, a to je vrlo vazno !
Drugo, vrlo mali broj ljudi je ikada bio u prilici da ima originale i da ih uporedjuje !!
A trece, (skoro) svi su se slozili da je korisna sprava, a po meni to je dosta!
E sad da li lici ili ne to je vec druga prica!! (kao i sa svim softwerom)..

ali za te pare je vise nego ok....

neko je jos skrenuo paznju da ne radi sa Duendeom na istom firewire busu...ko ne zna!

[redroom]

Originally Posted by DaBear

Jbga..kazu i na Gearslutz-u isto..nisu samplovi i procesovani samplovi iste jacine, a to je vrlo vazno !
Drugo, vrlo mali broj ljudi je ikada bio u prilici da ima originale i da ih uporedjuje !!
A trece, (skoro) svi su se slozili da je korisna sprava, a po meni to je dosta!
E sad da li lici ili ne to je vec druga prica!! (kao i sa svim softwerom)..

ali za te pare je vise nego ok....

neko je jos skrenuo paznju da ne radi sa Duendeom na istom firewire busu...ko ne zna!

Nije zgoreg imat na umu i ovaj podatak:

Latency
Firewire contributes a further 2-3 ms of latency.

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The Liquid Mix utilises a patented process called Dynamic Convolution to measure examples of the sonic impact of original analogue products upon an audio stream, so as to electronically emulate the performance of the original product. The patch names themselves can be a little cryptic, so here's the full list of hardware units that were used in their creation. Focusrite stress that the following product names, trademarks and trade names are used solely to identify and describe the third-party products the sonic behaviour of which was studied in the design of Liquid Mix ? no collaboration or endorsement between Focusrite and these companies is implied. Note that each emulation has a short and a longer name; the former is what appears in the unit's own LCD, while the fuller name appears on your computer.
Compressor Emulations
Flat Comp / Clean Sound Free Controls
Focusrite Liquid Channel DSP compressor.
Trany C / US Classic Discrete 1C
Based on an API 2500 stereo mastering compressor, serial number 0016 (Old/Normal/Hard settings).
Trany A / US Classic Discrete 1A
Based on an API 2500 stereo mastering compressor, serial number 0016 (Old/Normal/Soft settings).
Silver 2 / US Modern Tube 1
Based on an Avalon VT737SP valve channel strip, serial number 28150.
Live Sound / Brit Live Sound 1
Based on a BSS DPR402 dual compressor/limiter, serial number 02-9983-B.
London / Brit Boutique Tube 1
Based on a Chiswick Reach stereo valve compressor, serial number RMS0061.
Wasp 2 / Brit Classic Solid State 1
Based on a Drawmer DL221X, serial number 1008X.
Wasp 1 / Brit Classic Tube 1
Based on a Drawmer 1960 tube compressor, serial number 1002.
Big Blue A / US Modern Solid State 1A
Based on a Dbx 160S compressor/limiter, serial number 000004 (standard compression setting).
Big Blue B / US Modern Solid State 1B
Based on a Dbx 160S compressor/limiter, serial number 000004 (Over Easy compression setting).
US Radio / US Classic Solid State 1
Based on a Dbx 165 compressor/limiter, serial number 1821.
Copy Cat / US Modern Copy Cat
Based on a Empirical Labs EL8 Distressor, serial number 1689.
Vintage / US Vintage Tube 1
Based on a Fairchild Model 670, serial number 530.
FF ISA 130 / Focusrite Classic ISA 130
Based on a Focusrite ISA 130, serial number F00069T.
FF Green 5 / Focusrite Green Channel Strip
Based on a Focusrite Green channel strip, serial number GO05116.
FF Red 7 / Focusrite Classic Red 7
Based on a Focusrite Red 7, serial number FO6350T.
Dunk A / US Modern FET 1
Based on a Manley Slam!, serial number SLAM120 (FET limiter).
Dunk B/ US Modern Optical 1
Based on a Manley Slam! serial number SLAM120 (ELOP opto limiter).
Primitive / US Classic Tube 2
Based on a Manley stereo 'variable mu' compressor, serial number MSLC61536.
Big Green / Brit Classic Optical
Based on a Joemeek SC2 compressor, serial number 05-1038.
New Age 2E / US Modern Hybrid 2E
Based on a Millennia STT1, serial number 0-161 (solid-state input, solid-state compressor settings).
New Age 2A / US Modern Hybrid 2A
Based on a Millennia STT1, serial number 0-161 (tube input, tube compressor settings).
Class A 1 / Brit 70's Class A 1
Based on a Neve 2254/A dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 5008K.
Class A 2 / Brit 70's Class A 2
Based on a Neve 33609/B dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 108.
Brit Desk 1 / Brit Classic Desk 1
Based on a Neve VR console compressor, serial number unknown.
Meat Pie/ Brit 60's Class A
Based on a Pye 84 4060/01 compressor/limiter, serial number 60.
Grinder A / Brit Modern Desk Copy A
Based on a Smart Research C2 buss compressor, serial number C217.
Grinder B / Brit Modern Desk Copy B
Based on a Smart Research C2 buss compressor, serial number C217 (Crush setting).
Mix Buss / Brit Classic Buss
Based on an SSL FX G384 stereo compressor, serial number FX384-180.
Brit Desk 2 / Brit Classic Desk 2
Based on an SSL SL4000 G+ console compressor, serial number unknown.
Brit Desk 3 / Brit Modern Desk 1
Based on an SSL SL510 5000-series dynamics module, serial number unknown.
Acme 1/ US Modern Tube 3
Based on a Summit DCL200 dual compressor/limiter, serial number 0721076.
Acme 2/ US Modern Tube 4
Based on a Summit TLA100A tube levelling amplifier, serial number 0120429.
Leveller / US Classic Tube 3
Based on a Teletronix LA2A valve compressor/limiter, serial number 00227 (silver face, pre-Harman).
Brit Tube / Brit Modern Tube 1
Based on a TL Audio C1 dual valve compressor, serial number 121739.
Viking 1 / Danish Classic Tube 1
Based on a Tube-Tech CL1B compressor, serial number 04150.
Viking 2 / Danish Classic Tube 2
Based on a Tube-Tech LCA 2B dual/stereo compressor/limiter, serial number 04010.
Stellar 1 / US Classic Solid State 1
Based on a Universal Audio 1176LN (reissue) mono limiting amplifier, serial number 1394.
Stellar 2 / US Classic Solid State 2
Based on a Urei 1176LN mono limiting amplifier, serial number 11854 (silver face).
Stellar 3 / US Classic Solid State 3
Based on a Urei / Teletronix LA3A mono levelling amplifier, serial number 1584 (black face, 30dB switch setting on rear panel).
Stellar 4 / US Classic Optical 1
Based on a Urei LA4 compressor/limiter, serial number 4832A (silver face).

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EQ Emulations
Class A 2 / Brit 70's Class A 2 EQ
Based on the four-band EQ section of a Neve 1073, serial number 1742.
Trany 4 / US Classic Discrete 4 EQ
Based on an API 550B four-band EQ, serial number 02212.
Trany 5 / US Classic Discrete 5 EQ
Based on an API 559 nine-band EQ, serial number AX-GP-02211.
Old Tube 1 / US 60's Tube 1 EQ
Based on a Pultec EQP1 three/four-band EQ, serial number 1253.
Old Tube 2 / US 60's Tube 2 EQ
Based on a Pultec MEQ5 three-band EQ, serial number 1742.
Platinum 1 / Focusrite Platinum Voice Master EQ
Based on the five-band EQ featured on the original Focusrite Platinum unit, serial number P070110.
ISA 115 / Focusrite ISA 115 EQ
Based on a Focusrite ISA 115 six-band EQ.
Clas A 4 / Brit 60's Class A 3 EQ
Based on the three-band EQ section of a Neve 1058 channel strip, serial number 375.
Trany 3 / US Classic Discrete 3 EQ
Based on an API 550A four-band EQ, serial number 3855.
Silver 3 / US Modern Hybrid 3 EQ
Based on an Avalon VT747SP six-band EQ, serial number 27093.
Old Tube 3 / US 60's Tube 3 EQ
Based on a Pultec EQH2 three/four-band EQ, serial number 6140.
Vintage 3 / US Clasic Discrete 4 EQ
Based on an EAR 822Q three/four-band EQ, serial number TH82.
Brit Desk 4 / Brit Modern Desk 4 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single module from an SSL E-series desk.
Brit Desk 5 / Brit Modern Desk 5 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single module from an SSL G-series desk.
Huge Tube / US Modern Tube 6 EQ
Based on a Manley Massive Passive six-band EQ, serial number MSMPX1100.
Brit Desk 6 / Brit 80's Classic Desk 1 EQ
Based on the six-band EQ section of a single channel from an Amek Angela console, serial number 01314.
Silver 2 / US Modern Tube 1 EQ
Based on the five-band EQ of an Avalon VT737SP channel, serial number 12545.
Silver 4 / US Modern Tube 1 EQ
Based on the four-band EQ of an Avalon 2055, serial number 10747.
Platinum 2 / Focusrite Platinum Bass Factory EQ
Based on the seven-band EQ featured on the Japanese-only Platinum Bass Factory, serial number P060929.
Zebra 2 / US Zebra Discrete Desk Copy EQ
Based on the Chandler Limited EMI Passive TG Abbey Road.

[-neshapesha-]

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[redroom]

Originally Posted by Eyes

koliko kosta ova sprava?

Evo sta sam uspio nac u Hrvatskoj:

Focusrite na svom siteu kao oficijelne dealere za HR navode AudioPro, a cijena je 5.211,00kn (cca 705EUR).
Tamo jos kazu:

Sve cijene navedene na webu su maloprodajne cijene (MPC) izra?ene u kunama sa uračunatim PDV-om. Na svaki račun preko 1.000,00 kn plaćen gotovinom ostvarujete pravo na popust od 5 do 15%

sta bi u idealnoj varijanti znacilo 4.430,00kn ili 105 eura manje i to mi se cini OK cijena, tim vise sta ga npr. Thomann nudi za 719EUR. Pridodamo li tome postarinu i carinu sve vam je jasno . Kod Thomanna je jedino zgodno sta se LiquidMix moze pogledat u Flash "360-degree zoom image" animaciji. Ako koga zanima.
LiquidMix u HR nude i Audion, ali nema cijene.
I Provox nudi Focusrite opremu, ali ga nemaju u ponudi. Oni doduse osvjezavaju svoje web stranice jednom godisnje pa ih je najbolje kontaktirat (znao sam kojiput kod njih kupit komad opreme koji uopce nije u ponudi).
Eto, ja toliko. Ako ko zna da se LiquidMix moze nabavit jos jeftinije u HR nek javi.
Poz.