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Audio Produkcija - Tehnike Audio in?enjering, usnimavanje, tehnike mixa. Mesto za razmenu iskustva vezanih za DAW produkciju. Imate pitanje? Potreban vam je stručan odgovor? Podelite sa nama tajne produkcije i recording/editing tehnike

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Old 12-08-2007, 07:18 AM   #1
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Ukratko,hteo si da kazes,zasto se cimati analogno,kada je finalni produkt (wav fajl) digitalan!? Neka digitalno smiksane trake izgledaju kao broj 8.Te iste trake smiksane analogno izgledace slicno,ali ne isto,recimo kao slovo B.I sada da li ti slikao 8 i B digitalnim ili analognim foto-aparatom,stampao na papir,potom skenirao,pa smanjio rezoluciju,emitovao ih na tv analogni ili digitalni ...
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:22 AM   #2
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...8 i B ce razlikovati i dete od 7 godina i baba od 77.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:29 AM   #3
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(moj post je komentar na zajebite-ovu konstataciju)
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Old 12-08-2007, 08:25 AM   #4
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Sta kazete vi na to, da nas, a ima nas koliko vidim, koji nikada nismo culi hardver, neko pozove u studio da i mi cujemo te razlike i da prestanemo sa ovom pricom?

To bi sve trajalo jedan dan, a nama koji nemamo hardver bi otvorilo oci i usmerilo nas u pravom smeru.

Koliko vidim ovde samo nekolicina ljudi ima hardver i oni tvrde da je hardver bolji, na drugoj strani ima dosta ljudi koji hardver nemaju i ne veruju da je nesto bolje ili drugacije dok sami ne cuju. Sve bi se to moglo resiti u jednom danu, ukoliko neko ima volje za time?
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:51 AM   #5
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Kada producent koji je snimao Shakiru,sa ponosom prica kako je sa odredjenim mikrofonom(koji kosta brrrr)dobio da Shakira
zvuci WOW,ja nikada nisam pomislio:1)e ajde da ja cujem taj mic,pa da ti kazem,...2)ma moj mic od 500e moze to isto 3)ma to je nebitno,prosecan slusalac to ne cuje...
Ako si inteligentan,radis s tim sto imas,ali ne pricas da tvoj monitor,mic,mikseta...zvuci kao ona 20 ili ...
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:05 AM   #6
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...100 puta skuplje.Kao sto je malo ko od nas vozio Ferari...a nikada nece reci:e ajde bas da vidim,daj mi jedan krug da ga provozam... svi pricaju da je bolji od mog peugeot206,ali ja dok to ne probam,dzaba...
Ajmo vi koji imate ferari,ako neko ima vremena,neka jedan dan provoza nas koji nemamo,da vidimo da li to stvarno bolje przi
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:17 AM   #7
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Jes, u pravu si.
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Old 12-08-2007, 07:04 PM   #8
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(moj post je komentar na zajebite-ovu konstataciju)
ocigledno da neki clanovi nisu shvatili moj kratak komentar,ili nisu dobro procitali moj post
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:03 PM   #9
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Ne može, ipak, sve što je dobro da se dobije (tako lako) "analogijom". Semplujte analogijom i završićete kao Pink Floyd, razvlačeći traku po celom studiju. Kakav timestretching bolje zvuči - u ProToolsu ili "rastezanje" trake? A promena faze upotrebom modulacionog signala (recimo pomoću envelope generatora)? A osmobitni zvukovi - Akai S1000? Kompleksni delay kakav je Native Instruments Spektral Delay? Bitcrusheri?

Ima još primera, ali digitalno je više od "zvuči dobro - ne zvuči dovoljno dobro". Bounceujte take u loš .mp3, uvezite ga nazad u DAW, okrenite mu fazu, poslušajte - kako bi se to dobilo "analogijom"?

Ako neko zna da sam pogrešio, neka kaže da naučim, nisam "digitalac on a quest"!
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