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Old 29-04-2007, 08:39 PM   #1
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Kad smo kod kablova, moze li savet koje i gde da uzmem. Priznajem da se u ovu materiju jako slabo razumem, ne znam ni koja je razlika izmedju balansiranih i nebalansiranih ulaza. Inace juce sam uzeo monitore Adame A7, sledeca investicija je muzicka kartica EMU 1212m i neki boji kablovi, pa bi vas molio za savet. Hvala
Sto se balansiranih tice...
Sasvim su pristojni proizvodi firmi Belden i Klotz, i po ceni i po kvalitetu.... koristimo i jedne i druge... sta nadjemo...

Kod nas je problem sto se u prodavnicama prakticno jedino drze, i najvise trose kablovi za stage primene,... tako da mozes naci profesionalni zvucnicki (ali ne sa vecim presekom od 2.5 mm2) i balansirani mikrofonski, nebalansirani gitarski itd....

balansirani line-level ili patch-cable koji se koristi za linijski signal, izlaz iz mikrofonskog pre ampa na primer... ulaz u A/D konvertor itd... nismo uspeli da nadjemo u nasim prodavnicama, i on se obicno narucuje na neku vecu kolicinu kada su vece instalacije studija u pitanju... za nase potrebe smo ga sami uvezli (VanDamme)

Nije neki problem (nista nece da crkne) ako koristis, recimo, Klotz kabl, balansirani mikrofonski, za svoj linijski signal (recimo do tvojih Adama), ali na tom mestu je ipak bolje imati kabl napravljen za tu primenu (patch-cable), pa kada naletis na takav, uzmi ga...


Sto se tice razlika izmedju balansirane i nebalansirane veze imas na Rumskom dosta o tome, a evo imas i ovde o Balanced line i Balanced audio

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Old 29-04-2007, 10:30 PM   #2
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Old 30-04-2007, 03:51 AM   #3
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cuti precizniji zvuk,bolju prostornost,finije visoke i dosta dublji bas.OBAVEZNO sud o ovim kablovima(ako ih kupis) donesi tek posle nekih sedam dana jer svakom kablu treba izvesno vreme da se usvira u sistemu.
Po tome ispada da otpor u kabelu "napada" samo odredjeni dio signala?

Takodjer bih volio chuti teoriju po kojoj kabel nakon 7 dana postane usviran!?

Meni ovo zvuchi kao jak placebo.
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Old 30-04-2007, 11:22 AM   #5
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To sto sam napisao je moje i iskustvo gomile drugih ljudi koje poznajem.
Da ne zalazimo u nauku jer verovatno nismo naucno strucni.
Tnx. To sam si i mislio. Samo me to zanimalo. O subjektivnim iskustvima ne vrijedi diskutirati.
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@shiva mislio sam da se na ovom forumu razmenjuju upravo iskustva ali citajuci gomilu tvojih postova nocas, zakljucio sam upravo suprotno.
Mozhda me nisi razumio. Ja sam odavno nauchio da ima ljudi koi chuju zvuk teoretski van ljudskog sluha i znam da senzibilitet na zvuk ovisi o tome koliko je netko fokusiran na ono shto slusha. Dakle ja ne tvrdim da netko ne chuje nikakvu razliku izmedju ovih ili onih kablova.

Ja sam te samo pitao kako objashnjavash da otpor u kabelu selektivno napada baseve i visoke (o prostornosti da i ne pricham). Razlika vjerojatno postoi, ali kao shto Bogi reche teshko je davati ocjene shto je bolje od chega. Komentari tipa "finiji visoki" su zapravo neupotrebljivi... kao i "masniji zvuk" i slichne fraze. Rado bih navratio chut kablove ali sam malo daleko...

O subjektivnom iskustvu ne vrijedi raspravljati upravo zato shto ja nisam chuo tvoje kablove u usporedbi sa svoima pa jedino shto mogu je vjerovati tvojoj procjeni ili ne. O tome se doista nema shto diskutirati... vjerujem da se slazhesh!?

Pazhljivije chitaj postove pa che bit manje provokatora oko tebe.
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Od zvucnickih kablova bih za Adama preporucio Van Den Hul CS122.....
Inace...

Adam A7 su aktivni monitori.... tako da CS122 nema sta tu da radi

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Izvinjavam se jer sam zaboravio da kazem da sam spreman da izdvojim 100 eura plafon za 4-5 meteri (somota) kabla.
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