-= Mac OS X on Intel =-

LACKY · 21-04-2006, 08:40 PM

O cemu se ovde radi?, pa to je Osx koji je i dalje iskljucivo za Mac-ove.
To sto oni koriste Intel procesore nema veze sa Pc racunarima, to sto je neko uspeo da digne Osx na Pc-ju to njih ne zanima, i nece davati nikakvu podrsku za to(tako je receno)!

**boggy** · 11-05-2006, 06:07 AM

Samo komentar:

Sto se tice PC based "Mac-a", ako gledate samo operativni sistem, to nije merilo neke "platforme" u potpunosti... platformu cine procesor, arhitektura njegove okoline (periferali) i operativni sistem... tako da je Mac u ovom slucaju, i do skora, podrazumevani naziv za tri stvari, PowerPC procesor, Appleov nacin organizacije magistrale i periferijskih uredjaja (nisu kompatibilni ni sa kim, posto su jedini, kompatibilni su sa samim sobom), i njihovog operativnog sistema.

OSX kao operativni sistem je fundamentalno baziran na UNIX-u, konkretno se naslanja na BSD interpretaciju UNIX-a, i koliko znam, sve vreme postoji slobodna distribucija "osx-a" koja se, cini mi se, zove Darwin. Mislim da su oni odavno presli na gnu alate za kompajliranje i linkovanje, a to im konkretno znaci da prakticno imaju olaksanu portabilnost na ostale procesore... i to vazi od pocetka za OSX. Drugim recima, "imaju" oni odavno "OSX za Intel PC" u velikoj meri, samo je pitanje da li zele da idu tim putem ili ne...

Ono sto se desilo Manley-u je normalna pojava,... a to je drugacija organizacija periferija na Intel PC platformama (Serijski port recimo "ne mora biti na istom mestu", karikirano kazem)... i normalno je da masa drajvera ne radi, jer to mora da se modifikuje... a ako se krene u to, onda to znaci obavezu za distributera i proizvodjaca tog operativnog sistema da navedene razlike dodatno modifikuje i prilagodjava... sto nije uopste mali posao... te se i ogradjuju od toga... najverovatnije...

pozdrav

bogi

ProkDu · 11-05-2006, 07:04 AM

"... For the past six years, Apple has maintained a secret, in-house Intel build of Mac OS X as a "safety net," making this transition possible. During his Macworld Expo 2006 keynote in January, Steve Jobs unveiled the first Macs powered by the Intel "Core Duo" processor. The transition has begun."

"... Current wintel manufactureres will also be using Yonah (Core Duo) chips - it would be very compelling for "Dell" to bundle Darwin and Windows and run them in the virtualization mode. Apple would then be going head to head with Red Hat!"

"... As part of the Boot Camp rollout, Apple has posted firmware updates for all of their Intel-based Macs that are required to activate Boot Camp. These firmware updates bring BIOS support to the Macs' EFI, which should allow these machines to boot most any PC operating system with appropriate drivers."

"... Asustek Computer Inc. (a.k.a. ASUS), a leading PC motherboard maker, has won a contract from Apple to produce "iBook notebook personal computers" - 1.2 million of them, initially. The laptops will be powered by an Intel CPU (no surprise there) and equipped with 13.3" LCD panels, sourced from AU Optronics Corp, Chi Mei Optoelectronics, and LG Philips LCD."

"... For those who don't think that three is a crowd, have a look at a recently posted guide to triple booting Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux via Boot Camp."

**lesha** · 11-05-2006, 12:42 PM

sta je sa amd-om ? njega niko ne pominje..

kejkz · 11-05-2006, 12:54 PM

Meni radi sjajno na AMD64 3000+ evo već pet meseci. Sve periferije rade besprekorno.

ProkDu · 11-05-2006, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kejkz

Meni radi sjajno na AMD64 3000+ evo već pet meseci. Sve periferije rade besprekorno.

OS X?
Daj neki print screen (sliku) ako hoces da ti verujemo.

kejkz · 12-05-2006, 01:31 AM

Ok, evo ih nekoliko, nadam se da se lepo vidi i forum...

21-04-2006, 08:40 PM	#1
LACKY Pro Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,068	Re: -= Mac OS X on Intel =- O cemu se ovde radi?, pa to je Osx koji je i dalje iskljucivo za Mac-ove. To sto oni koriste Intel procesore nema veze sa Pc racunarima, to sto je neko uspeo da digne Osx na Pc-ju to njih ne zanima, i nece davati nikakvu podrsku za to(tako je receno)!

11-05-2006, 06:07 AM	#2
boggy Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Beograd Posts: 6,200	Re: -= Mac OS X on Intel =- Samo komentar: Sto se tice PC based "Mac-a", ako gledate samo operativni sistem, to nije merilo neke "platforme" u potpunosti... platformu cine procesor, arhitektura njegove okoline (periferali) i operativni sistem... tako da je Mac u ovom slucaju, i do skora, podrazumevani naziv za tri stvari, PowerPC procesor, Appleov nacin organizacije magistrale i periferijskih uredjaja (nisu kompatibilni ni sa kim, posto su jedini, kompatibilni su sa samim sobom), i njihovog operativnog sistema. OSX kao operativni sistem je fundamentalno baziran na UNIX-u, konkretno se naslanja na BSD interpretaciju UNIX-a, i koliko znam, sve vreme postoji slobodna distribucija "osx-a" koja se, cini mi se, zove Darwin. Mislim da su oni odavno presli na gnu alate za kompajliranje i linkovanje, a to im konkretno znaci da prakticno imaju olaksanu portabilnost na ostale procesore... i to vazi od pocetka za OSX. Drugim recima, "imaju" oni odavno "OSX za Intel PC" u velikoj meri, samo je pitanje da li zele da idu tim putem ili ne... Ono sto se desilo Manley-u je normalna pojava,... a to je drugacija organizacija periferija na Intel PC platformama (Serijski port recimo "ne mora biti na istom mestu", karikirano kazem)... i normalno je da masa drajvera ne radi, jer to mora da se modifikuje... a ako se krene u to, onda to znaci obavezu za distributera i proizvodjaca tog operativnog sistema da navedene razlike dodatno modifikuje i prilagodjava... sto nije uopste mali posao... te se i ogradjuju od toga... najverovatnije... pozdrav bogi __________________ @Facebook @Instagram Email: boggy@myroom-acoustics.com --"We can never see past the choices we don't understand." (Oracle, The Matrix Reloaded)

11-05-2006, 07:04 AM	#3
ProkDu Pro Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,598	Re: -= Mac OS X on Intel =- "... For the past six years, Apple has maintained a secret, in-house Intel build of Mac OS X as a "safety net," making this transition possible. During his Macworld Expo 2006 keynote in January, Steve Jobs unveiled the first Macs powered by the Intel "Core Duo" processor. The transition has begun." "... Current wintel manufactureres will also be using Yonah (Core Duo) chips - it would be very compelling for "Dell" to bundle Darwin and Windows and run them in the virtualization mode. Apple would then be going head to head with Red Hat!" "... As part of the Boot Camp rollout, Apple has posted firmware updates for all of their Intel-based Macs that are required to activate Boot Camp. These firmware updates bring BIOS support to the Macs' EFI, which should allow these machines to boot most any PC operating system with appropriate drivers." "... Asustek Computer Inc. (a.k.a. ASUS), a leading PC motherboard maker, has won a contract from Apple to produce "iBook notebook personal computers" - 1.2 million of them, initially. The laptops will be powered by an Intel CPU (no surprise there) and equipped with 13.3" LCD panels, sourced from AU Optronics Corp, Chi Mei Optoelectronics, and LG Philips LCD." "... For those who don't think that three is a crowd, have a look at a recently posted guide to triple booting Mac OS X, Windows, and Linux via Boot Camp." __________________ " .... we are breakbeat troopers and intergalactic travelers." Last edited by ProkDu; 11-05-2006 at 07:19 AM.

11-05-2006, 12:42 PM	#4
lesha Vibrator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Novi Sad Posts: 6,483	Re: -= Mac OS X on Intel =- sta je sa amd-om ? njega niko ne pominje..

11-05-2006, 12:54 PM	#5
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12-05-2006, 01:31 AM	#7
kejkz banned Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,210	Re: -= Mac OS X on Intel =- Ok, evo ih nekoliko, nadam se da se lepo vidi i forum...

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