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Old 04-07-2007, 08:42 PM   #1
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Default Luna 2 question

Jedno laicko pitanje samo..

Kupio bi Lunu 2 sa 8inout rackom, i skoro pa sam kupio, ali sam vidio akciju u provoxu za Pulsar XTC.

Mene zapravo zanima dali je taj Pulsar XTC sam za sebe audio kartica ili je to uprgrade nekakav ili... ?

sta je to?
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Old 04-07-2007, 09:08 PM   #2
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koja luna?
luna ti je karta sa 3 dsp-a i uz nju ne dobijas synthove...
pulsar je sa 6 dsp-ova + dobijas synthove (bolji soft paket).....
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:42 AM   #3
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Luna 2. Stariji model.

Postoji Pulsar 2, i postoji pulsar XTC, dali su to oboje zvučne ili je XTC hardware upgrade za Pulsara 2.

Lunu mogu dobiti za 3800 sa 8inout boxom. A pulsar xtc dodje 5000. Taj pulsar XTC ima 4 dspa koliko sam vidio, i neke dosta čudne konektore prema van.

Evo linkovi:

pulsar xtc

http://www.provox.hr/audio/proizvod....Proizvoda=1114

Pulsar 2

http://www.provox.hr/audio/proizvod....DProizvoda=701
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:33 PM   #4
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Evo, posto nemam sad vremena da pisem:
http://www.canadapromedia.com/sales/.../pulsarxtc.htm

Ukratko, XTC ti je 6DSP kartica, to radi funkciju kao npr UAD ili TC, dakle bez in/out opcija.

E sad, mnogi ce reci da CW efekti nisu nesto, da su sintevi ok, ja mislim da je sve u vezi CW (osim politike kompanije i teh. podrske) skroz super, efekti su mi odlicni, sintevi takodje. Steta samo sto se ova kompanija nije pojavila mnogo kasnije, jer njihovi proizvodi definitivno ispred svog vremena. No, videcemo sta buducnos donosi u vezi sa njima...
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:57 PM   #5
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ako sam te dobro razumeo luna je oko 510e a pulsar oko 680e
nemoj da si lud luna moze da se nadje za nekih 200e a pulsar oko 400e, sacekas avgust i imas upgrade za 100e:
luna>scope home
pulsar>scope project


pulsar xtc i pulsar 2 su ti iste karte sa 6 DSP-ova(na slici se vide 4), pulsar 1 ima 4 dsp,
razlika je u tome sto xtc ima istoimenu opciju da u tvom sekvenceru podize synthove kao vsti i regularno svoje plugove u mikseru.
ali sve to radi ne stabilno i lose
i ja sam se u pocetku lozio na xtc ali sam kasnije shvatio da postoje drugi nacini da se zaradjuje za zivot
super je luna sa tim box-om ako koristis hard synthove ali uz nju dobijas slab softverski paket.
kod pulsara biras pakete ma najbolje da sam pogledas:
www.creamware.com
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:24 PM   #6
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Svaka CW kartica ima XTC - To je samo mod rada (integracija efekata u sekvencer i automatizacija istih). Dakle i Luna i Pulsar imaju XTC mod - razlika je u tome sto PulsarXTC moze da radi SAMO u tom modu, jer ne poseduje fizicke i/o
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:25 PM   #7
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e da, Luna moze mozda da se nadje za 200e, ali bez i/o boxa-na boksu dobijas 8in i 8 out nebalansirani (-10dbu)
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:44 PM   #8
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e da, Luna moze mozda da se nadje za 200e, ali bez i/o boxa-na boksu dobijas 8in i 8 out nebalansirani (-10dbu)
jes majku mu... box sam zaboravio + nisam znao da pulsar xtc nema i/o

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Old 06-07-2007, 02:07 PM   #9
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e da, Luna moze mozda da se nadje za 200e, ali bez i/o boxa-na boksu dobijas 8in i 8 out nebalansirani (-10dbu)
Polovna moze, nova ne moze. http://www.thomann.de/gb/creamware_scope_home.htm

A da se vise isplati kupiti polovnu, ako je ispravna, naravno da se vise isplati.
Nije lose uzeti i 2XADAT expansion za nju, za one koji imaju nameru da vezuju externi hardware optickim kablovima, ali... optika se placa dodatno, pa je opet bolje nagaziti od nekoga polovnu optiku...
http://www.thomann.de/gb/creamware_h..._expansion.htm

Ja bih licno izbegao box (A-16, ili Luna Box) i pre bih izao na nesto drugo, preko optike, ili SP-DIF-a... kao sto sam i uradio...

Pulsar je po meni isplativija kupovina, posto ima 6 DSP chipova, a i optika je integrisana na njemu, pa ne mora da se placa odvojeno... soft paket je takodje nesto kompletniji, ma da najlepse stvari ipak moraju da se doplate...

Sto se tice CW efekta... ja ne bih rekao da su TimeWorks Plate 100, Dynatube, BrainWorks... itd... losi. Naprotiv!
XTC varijantu bih zaobisao, jer je i sam SonicCore, koliko ja znam, digao ruke od XTC-a...
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:43 PM   #10
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Sto se tice CW efekta... ja ne bih rekao da su TimeWorks Plate 100, Dynatube, BrainWorks... itd... losi. Naprotiv!
kakav je taj brainworks?
znam da je extemno skup...
moze li to da se poredi sa uad-ovim i tc powercore-ovim EQ-evima?
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