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Old 21-11-2008, 09:32 PM   #1
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Old 21-11-2008, 09:54 PM   #2
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hmmm ..... nije lose , nije lose



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Old 21-11-2008, 10:36 PM   #3
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To se odavno zna da Kraftwerk i Stonesi imaju najjace advokate na planeti!
Sjetite se samo slucaja iz 1997. kad je band The Verve uzeo sample sa ploce klasicnih intrumentalnih obrada Stonesa i od toga napravio uvodni loop za Bitter Sweet Symphony i na kraju ekspresno izgubili sudski spor sa Stonesima. Advokat Stonesa je uspio isposlovat ne samo da SVA LOVA od autorskih prava i izvodjenja ide Richardsu i Jaggeru, nego su The Verve morali na CD-u ispod pjesme Bitter Sweet Symphony potpisat Jaggera i Richardsa kao autore pjesme!!! To je bandu inace bio najveci hit od kojeg nisu zaradili ni penny
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Old 23-11-2008, 04:07 PM   #4
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ocigledno im je muzika odavno dosadila sto dokazuju i njihovi 'nastupi' - plejlistu u plejer i mrdamo se ko roboti ,strasno ..
Mozda im je trebalo malo paznje javnosti pred sledece 'nastupe' pa smislili da tuze lika za 'cangr' ...
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Old 23-11-2008, 06:28 PM   #5
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ocigledno im je muzika odavno dosadila sto dokazuju i njihovi 'nastupi' - plejlistu u plejer i mrdamo se ko roboti ,strasno ..
Mozda im je trebalo malo paznje javnosti pred sledece 'nastupe' pa smislili da tuze lika za 'cangr' ...
da si bio na nekom od njihovih koncerata (ili barem pogledao live dvd minimum-maximum) ne bi izvalio tako nesto
kraftwerk sviraju uzivo. itekako
kraftwerk tuze sve zivo. itekako
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Old 23-11-2008, 06:59 PM   #6
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pa da ,bash zato sto sam bio ..i ocekivao lajv pa mi dobro doslo da ih napljujem
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Chek bre, Vrach... tamo pise:

"Nemački vrhovni sud oborio je presudu hambur?kog suda..."


znaci... nisu (jos) dobili na sudu!

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Sta reci onda za Planet Rock gde je kompletna stvar semplovana, ali to su se kao dogovorili

Pise da je "pozajmljeno", ranije se "pozajmljivala" cela stvar, a sad ne moze ni 2 sekunde.. Eto kakva su vremena dosla - nije ni cudo sto je Akai-u tolika pala cena


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The main melody of "Planet Rock" is borrowed from the title track of Kraftwerk's influential album Trans Europe Express, while the drum pattern is based on the song "Numbers" from the Kraftwerk album Computer World, another popular underground club record. The borrowings eventually resulted in an out-of-court settlement between Kraftwerk and Tommy Boy Records head Tom Silverman.
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Afrika Bambaataa & The Soulsonic Force: 'Planet Rock'

For mixing Kraftwerk's synthetic beats and simple melodies with New York rap, 'Planet Rock' can be credited with creating an entirely new genre: hip-hop. This is how it happened...


"Bambaataa wanted to use the keyboardist who had played on a record that he liked, and this turned out to be John Robie, who is now my oldest friend. John played everything by hand, nothing was sequenced on 'Planet Rock' ? we didn't have a sequencer at that time.
...it was my idea to use a combination of those two numbers (Numbers & Trans-Europe Express) for Bambaataa's next record, because the beat on 'Trans-Europe Express' was too slow.
Anyway, since we were basically trying to emulate the Kraftwerk sound, when we went into the studio we decided we needed a drum machine. What's more, after hearing an 808, we knew that was what we wanted, so I looked in the Village Voice and saw an ad stating, 'Man with drum machine, $30 a session.' His name was Joe and he had an 808, so we paid him to come in and do the beats.
We played him 'Numbers' and asked him to copy the beat, and then Bambaataa asked him to copy the beat from 'Super Sperm', so that's what we did first.... In fact, we realised we might get sued by Kraftwerk if we used the 'Trans-Europe Express' melody, so John performed a different string melody just in case and that was what we ended up using for 'Play At Your Own Risk'."






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Sta reci onda za Planet Rock gde je kompletna stvar semplovana, ali to su se kao dogovorili

Pise da je "pozajmljeno", ranije se "pozajmljivala" cela stvar, a sad ne moze ni 2 sekunde.. Eto kakva su vremena dosla - nije ni cudo sto je Akai-u tolika pala cena


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The main melody of "Planet Rock" is borrowed from the title track of Kraftwerk's influential album Trans Europe Express, while the drum pattern is based on the song "Numbers" from the Kraftwerk album Computer World, another popular underground club record. The borrowings eventually resulted in an out-of-court settlement between Kraftwerk and Tommy Boy Records head Tom Silverman.
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S druge strane, ima i dobrih primjera: DJ Danger Mouse je dobio sudski proces protiv Beatlesa koji su ga tuzili za neovlasteno koristenje njihovih sampleova na "The Grey Album"
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