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Old 11-06-2006, 07:00 PM   #1
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Cool -= Audio Iluzije =-

Audio iluzije. Odnosno, ne samo sto mozemo da prevarimo culo vida, vec i sluha. Ovo je primer zvuka koji konstantno opada (ili se podize). Efekat se zove "Shepard tone" po Roger Shepard-u. Efekat se dobija tako sto sviraju paralelno nekoliko oktava hromatski (navise ili nanize (moguce je i koriscenje skala)), s' tim sto svaka oktava (sled tonova) pravi krug u jacini zvuka (fade in-out).

Primeri koriscenja ovog efekta se mogu cuti u delima Pink Floyd-a, Queen-a, ProkDu-a, pa cak i Bach-a (Fantasy and Fugue in G minor for organ, BWV 542). :o

Po mom skromnom misljenju, zanimljiv koncept koji se moze koristiti na razne nacine u muzici.
Imam jos par ovih audio iluzija, ali ... to ste vec culi u promocijama.
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Old 11-06-2006, 07:17 PM   #2
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ovo je jako dobro... jel bi mogao detaljnije da opishesh kako se dolazi do takvog efekta?

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Old 11-06-2006, 07:55 PM   #3
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Obrati paznju na sliku (= 1000 reci). Boja je velocity (jacina) svakog tona. Obrati paznju kako se boja menja po dijagonali (npr. C 100%, C# 92%, D 84% .... ). Znaci kreces sa npr. tri oktave iz C-a i vozis dijagonalno u okviru te 3 oktave, kad izadjes i 3-ce oktave vratis se u prvu. Analiziraj sliku malo i sve ce ti se samo kazati.
Prvo odradi jednu dijagonalu i velocity za pocetne tonove ostalih dijagonala ces sam naci.
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Old 11-06-2006, 08:41 PM   #4
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Hehe..da da, dobra fora... bash me zanima kako bi to zvuchalo, i da li bi uopshte moglo da se izvede sa vokalima...
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Old 11-06-2006, 09:23 PM   #5
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Postoji i sa vokalima.Poslusaj Machault to je nesto slicno, nije bas po ovom principu ali isto stvara iluzije glasovima, i glas je jedino sto se koristi.
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Postoji i sa vokalima.Poslusaj Machault to je nesto slicno, nije bas po ovom principu ali isto stvara iluzije glasovima, i glas je jedino sto se koristi.
Guiaumme Machault - francuski renesansni kompozitor?
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Primeri koriscenja ovog efekta se mogu cuti u delima Pink Floyd-a, Queen-a, ProkDu-a, pa cak i Bach-a

Strava ti je ekipa
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Hm,zvuci vrlo psihodelicno (sto mi se dopada!!).Imas li jos ovakvih stvari da nam
pokazes ?
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Hm,zvuci vrlo psihodelicno (sto mi se dopada!!).Imas li jos ovakvih stvari da nam
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Ja nemam josh takvih fora, ali sam chisto primjetio tvoj avatar i keyword "psihodelichno" u tvom postu i strashno sam se razveselio. Do sad sam mislio da ovdje apsolutno nema ljudi koi se ozbiljnije bave elektronskom glazbom pa me tvoj post malo oraspolozhio

eto samo toliko. sorry za off topic.
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