Bob Katz: Analog vs. Digital summing

[Oggy]

Ucinilo mi se kao zanimljiv pogled na stvari od coveka cije je misljenje prilicno referentno....

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bob katz

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Originally Posted by narco
A question for mastering engineers ONLY (otherwise it'll just be a can of worms)

Have you EVER heard a mix and thought "this would sound better if they had used analog summing during mixing"

Or can you even tell if a mix is summed digitally at all?

Narco



Absolutely, positively not. It is impossible to tell. On the opposite side you can often tell when an engineer used bad analog summing or console. But a mix can sound small and edgy regardless of which console or summing you use.

I wish that Resolution magazine published reprints of articles on their site. I wrote a two-part series on summing which many people have told me is the definitive article on the subject.

In summary: Digital summing is "perfect", perhaps too perfect. In analog, it's not the summing that does the trick, but rather the coloration of the circuits. In some cases, some of the crosstalk or distortion of the good analog boards seems to actually enhance the stereo separation and depth. But is definitely, 100% a case of coloration, and I've proved it.

BK
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[boggy]

Originally Posted by Oggy

Ucinilo mi se kao zanimljiv pogled na stvari od coveka cije je misljenje prilicno referentno....

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bob katz
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Da, jeste zanimljivo, i vec je bilo reci o tome da crosstalk u analognim mikserima/sumerima "poboljsava" stereo separaciju, a generalno je poznato da nesavrsenost (pogotovo starih sprava) doprinosi utisku prijatnosti miksa. Jos jedna u nizu pojava da se tanane nesavrsenosti cuju, i sto je mozda gore... prijaju. I dalje mislim da to nije dovoljno da bi nesto (samo) "provuceno" kroz neku "staru" spravu odmah zvucalo super... to je samo jedna u nizu sitnica, na koje treba obracati paznju.

pozdrav

bogi

[LACKY]

Ma problem je sto je ozbiljno analogno sabiranje jako skupo i oko toga se vrti cela stvar.
Kada bi mixao nesto i da imam na raspolaganju Beringerov mixer, veruj mi da bi to radije sabrao u Daw-u.
A ako me pitas kako bih sabirao da mixam u Georgijev ili Pink studiu, onda opet nema dileme. Analogno naravno!