Sonar 4 i uskoro Cubase SX3

***puRe*** · 01-09-2004, 07:53 PM

http://www.cakewalk.com/Press/09-01-04-SONAR4.asp

Shady · 02-09-2004, 04:06 AM

Dobra vijest za mene. Iman Sonara 3 koji me dosta zeza...

***puRe*** · 02-09-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shady

Dobra vijest za mene. Iman Sonara 3 koji me dosta zeza...

Sonar 3 te verovatno zeza zbog neceg drugog posto drugima radi savrseno...Sonar 4 ce biti uglavnom nove opcije...

**STUDIOTON** · 02-09-2004, 02:00 PM

Napisi ovde Shady simptome koji te zezaju .. Ja znam da ti puca sonar kada pokusavas da otvoris neki projekat .. sta jos?

ANITA · 03-09-2004, 02:06 AM

Sonar 4, bas me zanima..... Samo da ga nisu poruznili....

Jer, ja trenutno koristim i cubase i sonar. Za midi orkestracije mi se nije pokazao stabilan cubase i ne svida mi se nj. notni editor (i jos mnooogo toga). Cubase si valjda daje neke prioritete ili sto vec, uglavnom, u cubase-u nema sanse da otvorim 30 traka sa npr. 15 instrumenata u giga studiju... sve pucketa! Otvorim isto u sonaru.... i sve normalno lijepo radi bez iiiiikakvih problema. Znam da se mozda moze i ovo podesiti ali ipak mi je sonar radi mnogo toga drazi za skladanje.

A za snimanje i produkciju mi je drazi cubase.

Mozda to sonar 4 promijeni i opet se vratim monogamiji.

Shady · 03-09-2004, 05:29 AM

U su?tini, Cakewalk je dobra firma. U potpunosti se sla?em sa Anitom da imaju puno bolji Piano Roll (kod Cubasea je to Key editor).

Do sonara.3 radio sam isklju?ivo u Cakewalk 9.03 i sve je radilo savr?eno, nikad sa njim nisam imao problema.

Sonar 3 me odu?evio u mnogim stvarima ali ja izgleda ne umijem podesiti njegovu potpunu kompatibilnost sa EMU 1820. (bar ja nemam drugo obja?njenje za probleme koje imam)

Sonarov VST Adapter (ver. 4.2) putem koga sam dvadesetak VST instrumenata (i efekata) prilagodio DXi-u sve to uradi dobro ali Sonar kao da ima problema da popamti sve te portove i adrese, pa ?esto uradim stvar i odem spavat, a sutra moram ponovno upisivat adrese za boje.

I imam veliki problem da radim na 24bit / 96.Khz! ?im podesim Sonar da radi na toj rezoluciji on ugasi, tako da jedino mogu snimati na 24/48. Emuovu 1820 kartu sam podesio za rad na 96.khz; podesio sam takodjer i Sonar, medjutim ni?ta od toga.

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Ivane, poslao sam ti jedan email.

Anita, ja sam otvorio jedan topic o Sonaru sa nekim pitanjima: http://www.rumski.com/rumski/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=1747
Pa, ako zna? odgovore, hajde pomozi.

SandRob · 03-09-2004, 08:26 AM

sx/nuendo u novoj verziji moraju vratit neke stvari koje su imali vec u atarijevoj verziji i kasnije u vst32... i to moraju ucinit sto prije.

citan specifikacije od novog sonara... bas se pitan sto ce steinbergovci sad smislit... mislin da ce in se oznojit jaja...

bdv: kazu da je ovaj pow-r dithering puno bolji od apogievog

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***puRe*** · 03-09-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SandRob

sx/nuendo u novoj verziji moraju vratit neke stvari koje su imali vec u atarijevoj verziji i kasnije u vst32... i to moraju ucinit sto prije.

citan specifikacije od novog sonara... bas se pitan sto ce steinbergovci sad smislit... mislin da ce in se oznojit jaja...

bdv: kazu da je ovaj pow-r dithering puno bolji od apogievog

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Steinberg rastura...po preliminarnim informacijama ima mnoooooogo bug fixeva a od novih opcija imas engine za lupove kao u Abletonu, itd...

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Audio Warp (Ableton Live Warp Engine fully implemented)

Play Order Track (Pattern Arrange)

Inplace Editing (Edit Midi/Audio directly in the Tracks !!) and generally enhanced workflow.

User Workspaces (fully customizeable Workspace, colorizing etc)

External FX Integration

Will run NATIVELY under forthcoming 64-bit Windows XP and Tiger OSX !!!

MIDI Device Maps and about 60 more features.

***puRe*** · 03-09-2004, 02:40 PM

SX3 je izasao!

Mixing:
Extended Freeze for VST instruments offers more options for freezing VSTi's and VSTi channels.
Freeze for Audio Channels to reduce CPU load by audio insert plugins.
Dummy Plugin replaces missing plugins when transferring projects to another system; thereby preserving the original plugin when moving back to the original system.
Glide return-time on touch fader automation.
Play Order Track for intuitive arranging and re-arranging of projects.
Volume envelope for parts offers automation of volume that moves with the part.
Audition channel creates separate monitor bus for scrubbing, preview and editing audio.
AUX send panners linked to channel panners facilitates surround mixing.
Option to route send busses of FX return channel to any output channels.

Files and Formats (Import and Export):
Import / export markers with Standard MIDI File.
Improved Drag & Drop for Standard MIDI Files into project window.
Import/Export selected tracks from/to OMF.
OMF: Option to export clip names.

Recording and playback:
Adjustable audio pre-record up to 10 minutes serves as a virtual audio sketch pad; audio clips can be expanded at the event start to reveal pre-recorded data.
Improved scrubbing.
New project start time options: keeps events absolute or relative to project start time.
Audition option during export.
Post-Record cleanup aft er MIDI recording (resets pitch bend, sustain and other controllers).

Editing:
Audio Warp realtime algorithm supports realtime time stretching and pitch shifting on individual or all clips.
Time-Warp content tool allows for manual audio warping of individual clips.
Hitpoint/loop rhythm info improvements.
Improved Hitpoint Detection.
Tempo processing for fast and accurate tempo operations based on the project?s tempo track.
In Place Editor puts the key editor directly on the project page and allows for MIDI event editing (notes and controllers) in context with other tracks and track types.
Relative snapping of objects: parts keep their relative start position when moved by snap values.
Audio feedback for velocity changes in controller lanes.
Key commands to recall logical editor presets.
Key commands to recall controller lane setups.
MIDI Controller input for controller lane editing.
MIDI controller input for data in Info-Line.
Moving sync -point shows timecode indicator.
Select tool automatically changes to pencil tool when moving mouse pointer to a velocity MIDI controller lane.

Project/General:
Color coding for all tracks and mixer channels, including a new color tool, expanded color palette, view/hide button and more.
Child bussed for VST group/fx busses facilitate signal routing in multi-channel applications.
Alternative audio waveform visualization improves visibility of dynamics/loudness at small track heights.
Performance Optimization (general and processor-specific).
Apple G5 and Intel P4 (Prescott) Optimization.
Workspaces for managing window sets or entire desktops.
Advanced metronome settings, including/adjustable pitch/volume for metronome click and alternative click samples.
Alternative PPQ (bars+beats) linear view in project window.
Optional position display for selection tool.
Expand/collapse Inspector section s by clicking on entire title bar.
Content indicator for Inspector Notepad.

Plug-ins:
External FX plugins allow integration of external hardware signal processors into the VST mixer as insert or send effects.
New MIDI Plugin: Context Gate.
New MIDI Plugin: Arpache SX.
Dummy plugin for freeze (replaces missing plugins when projects are transferred to other systems).

MIDI & Music:
MIDI Device Maps and Panels give access to external MIDI equipment (synthesizers, signal processors, digital mixers, etc.).
User Panel for Track Inspector allows access to sections of Device Panels or specially designed user panels.
User-definable channel strip in VST mixer as part of Device Panel integration.
Integration of Yamaha Studio Manager 2 (Studio Connections open standard) to access compatible hardware editors, edit and manage devices, and save/recall settings with Cubase SX projects (Tot al Recall).
Quantizing MIDI can move associated controller events.
MTC Loop sends continuous MTC timecode from seq. timecode when sequencer loops, jumps, locates, etc. (user preference).
MMC Machine Control Panel allows transport control and track arming of external MIDI devices.
New Synchronization Setup Dialog organizes all related parameters in a new and more intuitive way.

Score:
Improved slurs (insert, move, edit, delete).
User symbols; custom created symbols can be created and edited.
Playback of the form; repeat marks, endings, da capo, etc. are played back properly.
Improved text import; import blocks of text, in *.txt or *.rtf format.

Various:
New comma nd "set cursor to selection end".
Marker window now offers sortable columns.
Quick assign of multiple inputs or outputs of a channel to one input or output.
Quick assign for incrementing input or output of objects for multiple channels.
Grid Match color option for MIDI events.
Option to open plug-in GUI directly from the plug-in information window.
Maximize button for video window expands window to full screen.
Key commands for the inspector sections expand or collapse respective sections.
64-Bit compatible with upcoming Windows XP 64-Bit Edition; supports up to 4 GB of RAM.

***puRe*** · 03-09-2004, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ja

Apple G5 and Intel P4 (Prescott) Optimization.

Aaaaaa...Prescott!!!!

01-09-2004, 07:53 PM	#1
*puRe* Administrator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beograd Posts: 4,253	Sonar 4 i uskoro Cubase SX3 http://www.cakewalk.com/Press/09-01-04-SONAR4.asp __________________ [rumski administrator team] MySpace

02-09-2004, 02:00 PM	#4
STUDIOTON Ivan Lekic Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kraljevo Posts: 3,256	Napisi ovde Shady simptome koji te zezaju .. Ja znam da ti puca sonar kada pokusavas da otvoris neki projekat .. sta jos? __________________

03-09-2004, 02:06 AM	#5
ANITA VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Zagreb Posts: 2,738	Sonar 4, bas me zanima..... Samo da ga nisu poruznili.... Jer, ja trenutno koristim i cubase i sonar. Za midi orkestracije mi se nije pokazao stabilan cubase i ne svida mi se nj. notni editor (i jos mnooogo toga). Cubase si valjda daje neke prioritete ili sto vec, uglavnom, u cubase-u nema sanse da otvorim 30 traka sa npr. 15 instrumenata u giga studiju... sve pucketa! Otvorim isto u sonaru.... i sve normalno lijepo radi bez iiiiikakvih problema. Znam da se mozda moze i ovo podesiti ali ipak mi je sonar radi mnogo toga drazi za skladanje. A za snimanje i produkciju mi je drazi cubase. Mozda to sonar 4 promijeni i opet se vratim monogamiji. __________________ Anita Music FB Page Official Web Site

03-09-2004, 08:26 AM	#7
SandRob ton magistar Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: korcula Posts: 3,142	sx/nuendo u novoj verziji moraju vratit neke stvari koje su imali vec u atarijevoj verziji i kasnije u vst32... i to moraju ucinit sto prije. citan specifikacije od novog sonara... bas se pitan sto ce steinbergovci sad smislit... mislin da ce in se oznojit jaja... bdv: kazu da je ovaj pow-r dithering puno bolji od apogievog : __________________ e, sta covek mora da trpi zbog bandita

03-09-2004, 02:40 PM	#9
*puRe* Administrator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beograd Posts: 4,253	SX3 je izasao! Mixing: Extended Freeze for VST instruments offers more options for freezing VSTi's and VSTi channels. Freeze for Audio Channels to reduce CPU load by audio insert plugins. Dummy Plugin replaces missing plugins when transferring projects to another system; thereby preserving the original plugin when moving back to the original system. Glide return-time on touch fader automation. Play Order Track for intuitive arranging and re-arranging of projects. Volume envelope for parts offers automation of volume that moves with the part. Audition channel creates separate monitor bus for scrubbing, preview and editing audio. AUX send panners linked to channel panners facilitates surround mixing. Option to route send busses of FX return channel to any output channels. Files and Formats (Import and Export): Import / export markers with Standard MIDI File. Improved Drag & Drop for Standard MIDI Files into project window. Import/Export selected tracks from/to OMF. OMF: Option to export clip names. Recording and playback: Adjustable audio pre-record up to 10 minutes serves as a virtual audio sketch pad; audio clips can be expanded at the event start to reveal pre-recorded data. Improved scrubbing. New project start time options: keeps events absolute or relative to project start time. Audition option during export. Post-Record cleanup aft er MIDI recording (resets pitch bend, sustain and other controllers). Editing: Audio Warp realtime algorithm supports realtime time stretching and pitch shifting on individual or all clips. Time-Warp content tool allows for manual audio warping of individual clips. Hitpoint/loop rhythm info improvements. Improved Hitpoint Detection. Tempo processing for fast and accurate tempo operations based on the project?s tempo track. In Place Editor puts the key editor directly on the project page and allows for MIDI event editing (notes and controllers) in context with other tracks and track types. Relative snapping of objects: parts keep their relative start position when moved by snap values. Audio feedback for velocity changes in controller lanes. Key commands to recall logical editor presets. Key commands to recall controller lane setups. MIDI Controller input for controller lane editing. MIDI controller input for data in Info-Line. Moving sync -point shows timecode indicator. Select tool automatically changes to pencil tool when moving mouse pointer to a velocity MIDI controller lane. Project/General: Color coding for all tracks and mixer channels, including a new color tool, expanded color palette, view/hide button and more. Child bussed for VST group/fx busses facilitate signal routing in multi-channel applications. Alternative audio waveform visualization improves visibility of dynamics/loudness at small track heights. Performance Optimization (general and processor-specific). Apple G5 and Intel P4 (Prescott) Optimization. Workspaces for managing window sets or entire desktops. Advanced metronome settings, including/adjustable pitch/volume for metronome click and alternative click samples. Alternative PPQ (bars+beats) linear view in project window. Optional position display for selection tool. Expand/collapse Inspector section s by clicking on entire title bar. Content indicator for Inspector Notepad. Plug-ins: External FX plugins allow integration of external hardware signal processors into the VST mixer as insert or send effects. New MIDI Plugin: Context Gate. New MIDI Plugin: Arpache SX. Dummy plugin for freeze (replaces missing plugins when projects are transferred to other systems). MIDI & Music: MIDI Device Maps and Panels give access to external MIDI equipment (synthesizers, signal processors, digital mixers, etc.). User Panel for Track Inspector allows access to sections of Device Panels or specially designed user panels. User-definable channel strip in VST mixer as part of Device Panel integration. Integration of Yamaha Studio Manager 2 (Studio Connections open standard) to access compatible hardware editors, edit and manage devices, and save/recall settings with Cubase SX projects (Tot al Recall). Quantizing MIDI can move associated controller events. MTC Loop sends continuous MTC timecode from seq. timecode when sequencer loops, jumps, locates, etc. (user preference). MMC Machine Control Panel allows transport control and track arming of external MIDI devices. New Synchronization Setup Dialog organizes all related parameters in a new and more intuitive way. Score: Improved slurs (insert, move, edit, delete). User symbols; custom created symbols can be created and edited. Playback of the form; repeat marks, endings, da capo, etc. are played back properly. Improved text import; import blocks of text, in .txt or .rtf format. Various: New comma nd "set cursor to selection end". Marker window now offers sortable columns. Quick assign of multiple inputs or outputs of a channel to one input or output. Quick assign for incrementing input or output of objects for multiple channels. Grid Match color option for MIDI events. Option to open plug-in GUI directly from the plug-in information window. Maximize button for video window expands window to full screen. Key commands for the inspector sections expand or collapse respective sections. 64-Bit compatible with upcoming Windows XP 64-Bit Edition; supports up to 4 GB of RAM. __________________ [rumski administrator team] MySpace

02-09-2004, 04:06 AM	#2
Shady Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sand?ak Posts: 586	Dobra vijest za mene. Iman Sonara 3 koji me dosta zeza...

03-09-2004, 05:29 AM	#6
Shady Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sand?ak Posts: 586	U su?tini, Cakewalk je dobra firma. U potpunosti se sla?em sa Anitom da imaju puno bolji Piano Roll (kod Cubasea je to Key editor). Do sonara.3 radio sam isklju?ivo u Cakewalk 9.03 i sve je radilo savr?eno, nikad sa njim nisam imao problema. Sonar 3 me odu?evio u mnogim stvarima ali ja izgleda ne umijem podesiti njegovu potpunu kompatibilnost sa EMU 1820. (bar ja nemam drugo obja?njenje za probleme koje imam) Sonarov VST Adapter (ver. 4.2) putem koga sam dvadesetak VST instrumenata (i efekata) prilagodio DXi-u sve to uradi dobro ali Sonar kao da ima problema da popamti sve te portove i adrese, pa ?esto uradim stvar i odem spavat, a sutra moram ponovno upisivat adrese za boje. I imam veliki problem da radim na 24bit / 96.Khz! ?im podesim Sonar da radi na toj rezoluciji on ugasi, tako da jedino mogu snimati na 24/48. Emuovu 1820 kartu sam podesio za rad na 96.khz; podesio sam takodjer i Sonar, medjutim ni?ta od toga. ------------- Ivane, poslao sam ti jedan email. Anita, ja sam otvorio jedan topic o Sonaru sa nekim pitanjima: http://www.rumski.com/rumski/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=1747 Pa, ako zna? odgovore, hajde pomozi.

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