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OFF 22-01-2016 09:36 AM

Novi yamaha workstation
 
https://audiosex.pro/threads/namm-20...ntage-6.23028/

The following Yamaha Montage information is taken from a credible posting at gearslutz. It adds to the information that was inadvertently revealed earlier.

AWM2: 128-note, stereo polyphony. New AWM2 waveforms: Yamaha CFX Premium Grand Piano, Bösendorfer Imperial Premium Grand Piano, strings, woodwinds. FM-X: 128-note polyphony, 8-operator voice architecture. FM voices taken from the DX and TX series. DX-to-FM-X conversion utility is in development. Seamless Sound Switching (SSS) for Performances with 8 or fewer parts; no more sound cut-off when changing performances. Envelope follower to extract a routable, control envelope. 1.75GByte of internal user flash memory. Class compliant USB with multiple audio channels back to a DAW. Sampling rate up to 192 kHz. VCM effects including a compressor with sidechain; damper resonance. Pure Analog Circuit (PAC) postprocesses after-DAC audio. Eight rotary encoders and eight sliders. Direct Control Assignment for convenient assignment of parameters to physical controls. 61- and 76-note models have FSX action and aftertouch. 88-key model has fully-weighted balanced hammer action and aftertouch.

The 128 stereo polyphony for AWM2 is interesting given the way Yamaha assigns voice generation elements on the fly. Also, given Yamaha’s tone generation scheme, this is true polyphony. Hopefully, the stereo polyphony spec implies a greater use of stereo waveforms for AWM2 voices. The latest reveal mentions “synth libraries from yamahasynth.com.” It would be cool (and useful!) if Yamaha follows the path taken by Nord with their downloadable sound libraries. Aftermarket accessories and sounds drive sales as well as a thriving environment for third party developers.

One poster noted that 1.75 GBytes of user flash memory is kind of an odd amount. The Montage uses the flash memory scheme that is employed in the most recent arrangers. The flash memory feeding the tone generator holds both the factory voice samples and user samples. Users basically get whatever space is left over from the factory set. Yamaha essentially reserves this much space in the physical memory for your own use.

The motion control and motion sequencer appear to be similar to features implemented in the old Yamaha AN200 and DX200 table-top groove boxes. These allow dynamic control of multiple parameters for sound “morphing.”

The Motion Control Synthesis Engine “unifies” the treatment of AWM2 and FM-X voices across zones and layers in a Performance. Transparency of operation is good.

The Montage appears to be physically smaller than the Motif. Hopefully, the Montage weighs less, too. Yamaha may get slagged for the lack of readable panel markings in low stage light.

Yamaha has opened up the Montage forum on yamahasynth.com. No manuals, yet.

More than a few people noticed that sequencing capabilities have not been mentioned in the leaked promotional material. Right now, it’s hard to read anything into the absence of this information.

spartakus 22-01-2016 10:45 AM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Ovo je bash dobro.

OFF 22-01-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spartakus (Post 369337)
Ovo je bash dobro.

Vidis da prate rumski I slusaju moje savete. Skoro 2 gb flash memorije, totalna asio-vst integracija, konacno 8 layera u perfomance-u, nema prekida zvuka kad se menjaju perfomance.... jedino su ostale budjave fsx dirke, ali to cu da izvadim I bacim :)

BlasterMaster 22-01-2016 09:16 PM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
lepa ali skupa igracka
bogami, na ovogodisnjem NAMMu sintovi,aranzeri,midi kontroleri, sve sto ima dirke bukvalno - odnelo show... korg, jamaha, roland, oberhajm, dejv smit, arturia, zlo kakve stvari izlaze... mislim,realno, sve isto, samo brze lakse jace skuplje :D

wladymeer 22-01-2016 10:31 PM

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Quote:

konacno 8 layera u perfomance-u
Ne serrrrrrrrrrrrrri :D :D :D

Pa dobro, do 2020. će doći do 16 layera :D

Koliko sam pročitao 2800€ je 61 dirka... Po meni očekivano jaka cifra od Yamahe.

Šta znam... ljudima naviknutim na Motif će ovo biti fin upgrejd, a ostalima nisam baš siguran.

Iskreno, osim ubacivanja FM sinteze, šta se to novo i bolje nudi u odnosu na konkurenciju? Spominjanje 8 layera u performansu u vreme kada je 16 standard je po meni ozbiljno zaostajanje bez obzira koliko taj "layer" bio bogat. Čak me i ovaj "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS) for Performances with 8 or fewer parts" u vreme kada Kronos nudi to isto bez obzira šta koristio navodi na mišljenje da ove Yamahine klavijature prave neki ljudi koji su godinama izolovani od stvarnog sveta i konkurencije.

Mada, buni me ovo "8 or fewer parts" - jel to znači da u Performansu možeš imati i više od 8?

Coconut 24-01-2016 12:20 AM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Fm engine totalno razbija, ocigledno posle reface dx-a su nasli resenje za jednostavnije programiranje nego npr. fs1r. Jedva cekam da ga probam.

OFF 24-01-2016 11:20 AM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wladymeer (Post 369344)
Ne serrrrrrrrrrrrrri :D :D :D

Pa dobro, do 2020. će doći do 16 layera :D

Koliko sam pročitao 2800€ je 61 dirka... Po meni očekivano jaka cifra od Yamahe.

Å*ta znam... ljudima naviknutim na Motif će ovo biti fin upgrejd, a ostalima nisam baÅ¡ siguran.

Iskreno, osim ubacivanja FM sinteze, Å¡ta se to novo i bolje nudi u odnosu na konkurenciju? Spominjanje 8 layera u performansu u vreme kada je 16 standard je po meni ozbiljno zaostajanje bez obzira koliko taj "layer" bio bogat. Čak me i ovaj "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS) for Performances with 8 or fewer parts" u vreme kada Kronos nudi to isto bez obzira Å¡ta koristio navodi na miÅ¡ljenje da ove Yamahine klavijature prave neki ljudi koji su godinama izolovani od stvarnog sveta i konkurencije.

Mada, buni me ovo "8 or fewer parts" - jel to znači da u Performansu možeÅ¡ imati i viÅ¡e od 8?

Pa za mene je najveca prednost sto moze istovremeno da radi i kao zvucna karta....u sto je usb, tako da bilo koji lap top moze da bude ozbiljna vst podrska....... Prednost u odnosu na ostale, ja sam sa yamahom odavno navikao na to....i taj master mod sa vstom je nesto sto pravi ozbiljnu razliku

tajna92 24-01-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wladymeer (Post 369344)
Mada, buni me ovo "8 or fewer parts" - jel to znači da u Performansu možeÅ¡ imati i viÅ¡e od 8?


To znaci "8 ili manje delova"

Goran B 30-01-2016 12:54 PM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Meni se dopada ovo veliko svjetleće dugme, može u raznim bojama da pulsira... :)

Malo šale naravno nije na odmet, ali super knob nije loša fora, nakalemiš parametara na njega koliko ti volja i vrti jedno dugme umjesti više njih :)

Striphio 05-02-2016 12:57 PM

Re: Novi yamaha workstation
 
Izgleda a i zvuči ekstra, jedino što nema sekvencer :( Mislim da Kronos ipak daje više za manju cijenu.


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