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Everbeatz 14-10-2013 08:07 PM

Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Iz nekog iskustva mislim da je dobro staviti neke definicije masteringa na sticky, cisto iz razloga, iako siroko poznat pojam, da se razjasne neke stvari o cemu se tu radi.
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MASTERING is - The process of preparing a body of recorded material for reproduction. THAT is the actual literal definition of mastering.

This process generally contains TWO phases. The first is a Quality Control phase and involves correcting or enhancing the mix, removing pops or weird noises, fading the song in or out - if anything needs to be done. This is also where the mastering engineer checks to make sure that the audio material fits the guidelines for the medium it will be reproduced on.

The second phase is called Authoring. This is where the songs are sequenced, and encoded with data such as track information and ISR Codes.

You do not "master a song" you master a project. The exception being a project CAN be a single. However, one of the main things addressed in modern mastering is the relationship between multiple songs - tonally and volume wise.

The process of audio mastering varies depending on the specific needs of the audio to be processed. Mastering engineers need to examine the types of input media, the expectations of the source producer or recipient, the limitations of the end medium and process the subject accordingly. General rules of thumb can rarely be applied.
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Examples of possible actions taken during mastering:
  1. Editing minor flaws
  2. Applying noise reduction to eliminate clicks, dropouts, hum and hiss
  3. Adjusting stereo width
  4. Adding ambience
  5. Equalize audio across tracks
  6. Adjust volume
  7. Dynamic range expansion or compression
  8. Peak limit
  9. Dither
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To finish mastering a CD the track markers must be inserted along with International Standard Recording Code (ISRC) and other information necessary to replicate a CD. Vinyl LP and cassettes have their own pre-duplication requirements for a finished master.


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Sta kazu neke poznate 'mastering face' vezano za samu definiciju:

Bob Olhsson:
"adjusting the presentation of the mix to be appropriate to its position within the album, the genre, the contemporary marketplace and possibly even history."
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"The presentation of a mix should never be confused with the presentation of the music and the recording which is what mixing is all about. Obviously the producer plays a key role and must approve anything that affects the mix. The presentation of the mix must always support the producer's, artist's and client's goals.

It's never a matter of homogenizing the sound to fit some genre but rather one of understanding the context within which the song is going to be listened to. You don't treat a Broadway musical the same way you treat a hip hop record unless the musical is about hip hop. Even then I'd want to discuss the goals of that kind of special situation with the producer. Mastering to me is always a collaboration and not "playing god."
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Brad Blackwood
"Simply put, mastering is the craft of helping the artists achieve their goals, whatever they may be."
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"Mastering is listening without prejudice - the processing that happens in mastering is a result of the objective listen."

alfom 15-10-2013 10:06 AM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
E, sad, ovih devet tačaka (ciljeva) ; ?ta su? Opis ; Primjeri ;
  1. Popravak manjih gre?aka
  2. Primjena tehnika za : smanjenje buke, eliminaciju klikova, propadanja zvuka, neprirodnih prezensa koji izazivaju ?i?tanje
  3. Pode?avanje stereo ?irine
  4. Dodavanje (pode?avanje) prostora
  5. Izjednačenje (balansiranje) tonskog zapisa du? trake
  6. Pode?avanje jačine zvuka
  7. Dinamički obim ekspanzije ili kompresije
  8. Granica maksimuma
  9. Popravljanje gre?aka konverzie
(ne govorim engleski, pa molim da Ever popravi ovaj 'slobodni' prijevod).

Moritz 15-10-2013 10:37 AM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Ovo nije nikakav slobodni prevod, ako ne znas sta znace ti termini i na sta se odnose to je druga stvar.
Vrlo je jasno u samom naslovu svake od tacaka sta svaka od njih zapravo znaci.

alfom 15-10-2013 11:33 AM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moritz (Post 351385)
Ovo nije nikakav slobodni prevod, ako ne znas sta znace ti termini i na sta se odnose to je druga stvar.
Vrlo je jasno u samom naslovu svake od tacaka sta svaka od njih zapravo znaci.

Ne znam ; ili ne znam zadovoljavajuće. A volio bih da znam.

Moritz 15-10-2013 11:44 AM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
u skladu sa temom

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/dGSmV5uNRuM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

alfom 15-10-2013 02:35 PM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
A-ha. E, puno ti hvala za ovaj link. Vjerovatno će mi pomoći da saznam ono ?to sada ne znam, a volio bih da znam.
:ljutpc:

Everbeatz 15-10-2013 02:46 PM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Greg Calbi iz Sterling Sound

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/79E_2QCv95g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Everbeatz 15-10-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alfom (Post 351384)
E, sad, ovih devet tačaka (ciljeva) ; ?ta su? Opis ; Primjeri ;
  1. Popravak manjih gre?aka
  2. Primjena tehnika za : smanjenje buke, eliminaciju klikova, propadanja zvuka, neprirodnih prezensa koji izazivaju ?i?tanje
  3. Pode?avanje stereo ?irine
  4. Dodavanje (pode?avanje) prostora
  5. Izjednačenje (balansiranje) tonskog zapisa du? trake
  6. Pode?avanje jačine zvuka
  7. Dinamički obim ekspanzije ili kompresije
  8. Granica maksimuma
  9. Popravljanje gre?aka konverzie
(ne govorim engleski, pa molim da Ever popravi ovaj 'slobodni' prijevod).

Samo da naglasim da ovaj spisak NIKAKO nije nesto sto se OBAVEZNO radi svaki put kad je mastering u pitanju, to je nabrajanje eventualnih zahvata koji dolaze u obzir i primenu nakon objektivnog preslusavanja materijala. Neke stvari iz toga spiska se skoro pa uvek rade (dither, peak limiting, npr), ali dodavanje 'prostora' je veoma redak slucaj npr.

Ovaj spisak bi, u stvari, mogao da stvori i neku vrstu zabune, posto sam svedok mnogobrojnih "plugin lanaca" koje ljudi koriste prilikom pseudo-masteringa radeci procesing maltene pa svih tacaka koje su nabrojane gore po defaultu.

Zato jos jednom citat iz gornjeg texta:
General rules of thumb can rarely be applied.

Everbeatz 16-11-2013 07:35 PM

Re: Sta je (u stvari) mastering!?
 
Odlican interview na sajtu od Robert Henke-a (Monolake) sa Rashad Becker-om.

http://www.monolake.de/interviews/mastering.html
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Rashad Becker: Mastering means finishing a piece of music or any auditive work for a certain purpose. That purpose can be bound to free artistic ideas, it can also be related to, or referring to specific media, or it can be related to a specific purpose, like for example a certain speaker set up, or even a specific room. Radio broadcast would be also a specific condition. Mastering is also the strictly technical process of producing a master. Which can be a lacquer for vinyl production, or a CD or whatever medium, but there is a finished product at the end of the day, which is the master from which duplication is launched.
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Software might be able to replace my racks of hardware, but it cannot replace the engineer.
:)


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